Well, Its Not Like They Weren’t Begging for This
This has some promise of being fun.
Once the Oklahoma Lege approved putting the Ten Commandments on the grounds of the State Capitol, that opened the door big and wide for other “religions” to have tributes to their beliefs. The first to apply? The New York based Satanic Temple, of course.
They are submitting a plan for a $20,000 designs. The Ten Commandments tribute was only $10,000, the but Satanic one will include “an interactive display for children.” That alone caused three semi-serious cases of the heart flutters in Oklahoma and one suicide attempt.
And while I will enjoy this process, I think it would have been so much more fun if the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster had applied.
By the way, you’ll love this.
A Ten Commandments monument erected outside the Oklahoma state Capitol is shown on Friday, Nov. 16, 2012. After the 6-foot-tall monument was put in place, the Oklahoma lawmaker who paid for it acknowledged the misspelling of the words Sabbath as “Sabbeth” and maidservant as “maidseruant.”
Those wacky Oklahomans!
Thanks to everybody for the heads up.
Does this mean that there will be no more Sabbath (Saturday) football games in Oklahoma? Will the legislators who are committing adultery have to resign their jobs?
Re the FSM, I expect the Pastafarians will soon find out they can put up a monument, and their monuments are always fun.
1Another thought–I don’t remember “maidservants” being mentioned in the Ten Commandments.
2Well, maybe the satanists will know how to spell.
3I’m glad we can celebrate our Satanic Heritage. And not just the Salem part. It wasn’t all about killing witches, but that’s the part some people miss the most.
4I’m holding out for Cthulhu, but the FSM is good.
5These idiots all think that religious freedom only extends to THEIR religion, not anyone else’s.
Oh goodie, GOP fun with the Five Suggestions. Yes, there were Ten at one time.
#1 Stricken for Ted Cuz: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
#2 Lost with images over the altar and around their necks:Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
#3
#4 Holy football anyone?
#5 And with social security cuts they give: Honour thy father and thy mother.
Options #6-10: Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Thou shalt not covet.
The GOP took a pass on 6-10 so long ago, are they still options?
6Considering the history of the FSM- that it was conceived as a satirical jab at the Kansas Board of Education during their attempt to include creationism in the science curriculum. This is a totally consistent request and well within the parameters of the whole program.Cthulhu would be good. Think how great that monument would look compared to a hunk of granite with the Decalogue inscribed.The Satanists and Pastafarians would probably have erected some good-looking monument as well. The ordinary godbotherers don’t seem to have much imagination.
7It’s in the 4th Commandment, OldMayFly
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
8This could be a sitcom for early Thursday evening … “comedy ensues when faith groups of every stripe, all of them with money to burn, descend on the Okie state capitol in a land rush for space to erect their monuments.” One of the big 3 broadcast networks could have it in your living room in January.
9“Well, maybe the satanists will know how to spell.”
Or at least use a spell-checker.
Seriously, what did you expect from the Ten-Commandments-on-the-Capitol-grounds folks, anyway? They’re big on home-schooling, you know.
10If only the rwnj’s actually followed those rules, this country would not be subject to the War on Truth, the War on the Poor, the War on Immigrants and the War on Women.
11(No, Virginia, there is no War on Christmas.)
Hypocrite thy name is CONSERVATIVE!
1. Honor thy contributors and do their bidding.
122. Oppress, revile, and bedevil the poor.
3. Foment racial division.
4. Love mammon and worship the collectors of it as one would the golden calf.
5. Seek and pretend to false piety so as to deflect criticism and better serve Satan.
sorry that’s my first cut on Satans 10 best.
13Thanks, Austinhatlady, I forgot the details.
The right-wingers sure do love to make a show of piety as long as they don’t have to actually follow through and do (or refrain from doing) whatever is commanded (or forbidden).
14I nominate a monument to Thor, the Nordic god with the fascinating hammer. Really. If I have to have a monument to dome diety, why shouldn’t he be a good looking hunk?
15I’m a Christian and have no problem with the Ten Commandments as such. But I’m Baptist and believe in the separation of church and state, so I really don’t think they – or the Satan monument – belong there. But I live in Oklahoma so I’m stuck with this sort of thing.
That said, some thoughts:
I know I shouldn’t throw stones, but I remember thinking at the time that I would have less objection to it if all elected officials, or even just those pushing for it, were required to obey them.
The law against Sharia that was passed a few years ago – actually I think it was made part of the Oklahoma Constitution if I remember right – prohibited I think the wording was foreign laws, to avoid being declared unconstitutional because of naming Sharia. Apparently no one told the people pushing the Ten Commandments that it came originally from a Middle Eastern country.
16I also think the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster should apply.
17We have discussed this at cbs news website and there were over 800 comments and growing. The FSM was prominently featured as a possible addition to the display. Funny how so called christians don’t want to share space. Not in their constitution,I guess.
18Do the people who make and engrave the monument of the ten commandments read the ten commandments,or did that “Thy-shall-not-make -graven-images” part not make the cliff notes version???
19Just couldn’t resist.
http://www.crossville-chronicle.com/local/x960637460/Flying-Spaghetti-Monster-takes-up-residence-at-county-courthouse
20The basis of many religions seems to be an all you can eat, a la carte philosophy. ‘You don’t like all 10 commandments? Welll… no problem. Just follow the ones you do like a little more. It’ll even out in the end’
21My nomination is this Snow Goddess! Tis the season for the winter solstice.
OUCH! Thinking my wife just vetoed that link. It was tasteful and discreet, honest Juanita Jean.
In all seriousness, how about a vote for the goddesses & gods of humanity, Aphrodite, the goddess of love and the mother of Eros, known to the Romans as Cupid and Apollo. Apollo, god of the sun, music, and art, one of the most versatile gods.
Or, Francis of Assisi, Pope Francis, Pete Maravich, Wendy Davis, Senator Elizabeth Warren or President Obama.
Bottom line if you want to plant concrete on our public lawns, think again, because we all have personal favorites. Hug, embrace, respect and call off the trucks full of concrete, please.
Instead of fighting about icons, let’s feed the children with the money spent on monuments.
22I think a nice statue of Kali would be nice. Blue with nekkid boobs, tongue sticking out and 4 to 10 arms holding weapons and gory stuff. I always liked Kali, was my kinda girl. Oh and necklace of skulls and depending on the source a skirt of willies, although I don’t think the gun nuts willies would be long enough. I’m going to hell for this comment aren’t I?
23A Satanist monument wouldn’t be much of a branching out; Satanism is an offshoot of Christianity anyway. (No, it’s not the same as Paganism. There is no Satan in Paganism, and the Satanists use distorted Pagan principles as much as they do distorted Christian ones.)
But I think it’s a great idea in general. You want religious symbols on your courthouse lawn? Bring ’em on! There are about 1000 religions so I hope you have room.
I’d love to hear a Republican explain in detail how each of the Ten Commandments is a part of US government. The only ones that are, are those about not killing, stealing, or perjuring (false witness), and EVERY country has those– Hindu, Shinto, Atheist or whatever.
“Do not covet”? Oh please, our whole economy is based on coveting.
24Hippie in the Hollar, unless you are a closet Tea Party Republican in Texas, you are probably safe. That’s the good news. If you are married, you might have some ‘splaining to do to exit the den, if your spouse reads here.
Nah, not going to hell dude, just that hell of a couch. Trust me, gonna cost ya dude, bling, flowers, dinner out, maybe viewing a chick flick or two. Go with peace, women are worth the price of paying our our debt of dumb, when we goof.
Trust a fellow been known to be a fool, cooking dinner is a good start. Go gourmet and clean up the kitchen. All is not lost. Best of luck!
25PLEASE NO SNOW GODDESS! My front yard is still covered with a few inches of snow. Wednesday was the last school day here, and school has already been cancelled for tomorrow for several districts in this area and probably will be for here also. If it got above freezing since early last week, it didn’t last long enough to do any good.
A neighbor cleared my sidewalk and part of my driveway and I feel ungrateful not to go out but my daughter keeps worrying about me falling on ice and telling me to stay in.
I am a warm weather person. When it’s 100 degrees or more I just think: I’m not driving on ice, I didn’t have to scrape the windshield, and my fingers aren’t numb, and it doesn’t feel nearly as hot.
26Polite Kool, this Hippie is a feral Democrat with heavy socialist tendencies who lives in a Kentucky hollar. Also very female, that’s why Kali is my kinda girl. That dancing on the dead husband thing, though I would stop at bringing him back to life. It was not a “good” divorce. Although I will accept bling, flowers and dinner from a gentleman with intentions. Ain’t say what kind. You did not hear that mama.
27Aw shucks, Hippie in the Hollar, my apologies. Happily married man here, with a will to live. Offering an olive branch and a donation to the candidate of your choice.
With any luck, my wife will quit laughing at me sometime tonight for my latest gaffe.
In my defense, my SIL is married to the lovely lady of her choice. Accepting my D’oh sticker for not recognizing all the possibilities of who might or why they might appreciate Kali.
Take heart, Texas!
28Aw shucks, Hippie in the Hollar, my apologies. Happily married man here, with a will to live. Offering an olive branch and a donation to the candidate of your choice.
With any luck, my wife will quit laughing at me sometime tonight for my latest gaffe.
In my defense, my SIL is married to the lovely lady of her choice. Accepting my D’oh sticker for not recognizing all the possibilities of who might or why they might appreciate Kali.
Take heart, Texas! While we progressive men still have the insert foot disease, the GOP men are taking seminars from fellow Neanderthals.
29I like all those statues. Way it oughta be.
30Sabbath is on Saturday–that’s why the first day of the week is Sunday on the calendar…never understood church on Sunday, the first day of the week..
31Kali, in her other (she flashes back and forth) not skulls, but flowers around her neck, is one of my favorite aspects of the Godess–life as well as skulls for death.
The FSM seems to cover the ground needed for a deity–not to familiar with its linage–just know that when I came home from retreat, my oldest daughter said, “Mom, you have to stop her!”
Referring to my 8 year old, who with a friend had decided to become priestess of their own religion, complete with gowns and pouches, and sashes that they designed and sewed…I went and cheddar out the representation of good ( a small garden Buddha with an abalone shell on his head–lol) evil (chicken bones and some smelly stuff) and a place to talk ) to spirit (a garden gnome) I talked with the other child’s mother–we agreed that it was great play and exploration ( no dead cats!) and let it be..drove my oldest sputteringly crazy…the first kid is often very right/wrong in orientation…
We can go the whole gamut of 1000’s of God’s different aspects–I love Lord Ganish–to no God at all…as long as their are no dead cats, or anything else, I’m in!
Checked out, not cheddar end out–sigh
32Polite Kool Marxist, no apologies needed, give your wife a big Hey from me, you seem to be a sweetie. You never can tell gender on line. I have a couple of cousins who run into this all the time, Sam and Rikki. That’s Samantha and Frederika. I did so enjoy the exchange and the Kali quip has gotten me into trouble before. Very misunderstood deity in the West.
33Perhaps we should be realistic and put up a statue of Mammon since he’s the god a lot of politicians revere the most.
34Well geez louise,if everyone gets a statue then these fauxknee,fake christians won’t be the exceptional ones Palin claims they are. Susie,it has been below zero here for five days in a row and highs have been single digits. Gonna warm up by April.I’ve got onions ordered for delivery and have 2 seed catalogs already here in the frozen tundra of NW ioway.:)
35Hippie – you’re cracking me up, girl! And there may be something to what you say. After all, look at the recent resurgence of Kali-fornia!
36FSM is getting a memorial in Wisconsin http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/17/flying-spaghetti-monster-joins-crowded-holiday-display-at-wisconsin-state-capitol/
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