Giuliani and Tapes
Okay, it seems that Rudy slipped and told a reporter that he’d listened to the “tapes” that prove that Trump did not tell Cohen to lie to congress.
Then he caught himself, and looked like a cat in the liter box trying to hide the lumps.
President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani accidentally told a reporter there are “tapes” that prove the president did not tell Michael Cohen to lie under oath about the Trump Tower deal in Moscow. Giuliani immediately walked back the comments in his interview with the New Yorker, saying he didn’t mean to say there are tapes, then saying there are no tapes, then saying there were tapes but they didn’t concern “this.”
You know, I don’t know much about lawyering but it seems to me that Rudy should shut his damn mouth.
Thanks to SGray for the heads up.
JJ, if you think that Giuliani should shut his mouth, you know more about lawyering that he does.
1No! Let him keep blithering. Even if it doesn’t hasten the impeachment we are all hoping for, the entertainment value is immense. Although interviewers are way too wimpy nowadays. When Guliani claimed that his previous lies about how long the Trump-Putin Moscow hotel negotiations continued, he claimed that those statements were “hypothetical”. Why didn’t the interviewer immediately ask “are your statements now hypothetical, or the alleged truth?”
Also, wasn’t there another White House goon decades ago who accidentally blurted out the deadly word “tapes”? I vaguely recall the name Butterfield or Butterball …. In any case, those tapes definitely had impact, even with 18.5 minutes missing.
2Oh noes, now is not the time to silence Rudy. At any minute he could confirm the last unconfirmed detail of the Steele dossier. As entertaining as Stormy and her attorney were with the Donnie spanking story, what would be a pResident without the pee tapes? Dish, Rudy, dish!
3Lordy, I hope there’s tapes.
4Rudy’s verbal diahrea is carefully orchestrated. It is all part of the plan to fill the air with every kind of alternate truth, hypothetical, misquote, in other words, LIE. After awhile no one listens to anything, which is what the Repugnant Party wants. They called the news media “Fake News” and are beginning to even suggest Faux News cannot always be trusted. It is all part of tRump’s plan. When we cannot trust any source he will be free to tell us nothing and do whatever his evil heart desires.
5https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7675a7b4c6a39210dae18ac14317af0bfe1c00c7f4419b17c3f65aa29ab2a10b.jpg
6@Jane & PKM, I sure hope Mueller is paying attention, though it’s entertainment value for the rest of us. As long as I don’t have to look at Rudy’s ugly mug. That man must be sneering in his sleep.
7Here is a New Yorker interview in which Giuliani says
“I am afraid it will be on my gravestone. ‘Rudy Giuliani: He lied for Trump.'”
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/even-if-he-did-do-it-it-wouldnt-be-a-crime-rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-robert-mueller-moscow-buzzfeed
8One of the first two things I was taught in law school, never ask a question you don’t know the answer to and once you have what you need SHUT UP!
9@slipstream #8
I think engraving Shmuck on his gravestone would be a nice addition…just sayin’
10With Rudy and so many of the other less than useful idiots in the Dotard45 clown contingent, what’s to be engraved can wait. The urgency is with the purpose of a gravestone: planting their sorry asses and marking the spot to pee. That I can do without pithy reading material.
Throw in some somersaults and let this little guy lead the way: https://tenor.com/view/dog-pee-peeing-lol-wtf-gif-5648271
11Richard @5; You pose an interesting opinion. guillani isn’t stupid unless he’s had essentially a stroke or dementia or is laying the predicate for confusion and disinterest thru sensory overload per trump’s MO – a form of the pea&shell game.
12Maybe a normal honorable person’s problem is not really knowing one’s enemy; eg, being able to think from their mindset because it is so far out of reasonableness.
JJ, what do your lawyers think? Have they considered Richard’s take?
We’re all probably used to hearing, “..a New York minute,” to describe something really quick. Far more appropriate would be, “As rare as an honest New Yorker,” or “More plentiful than liars in New York.”
13Mr B is right. I’m originally from Florida and can attest that the vast majority of New Yorkers have problems with the concept of “truth.”
14Richard @5,
Adolf’s already covered that stuff.
(from a Wiki Nazi timeline I noticed that Hitler was born in 1889, my own grandfather and grandmother were older by 5 and 2 years)
This reads like a blueprint to imprint and control those Teabaggers and MAGAots. No wonder Donnei supposedly keeps a copy by his bed. No doubt it has continued to serve as a ‘foundation document’ for the modern ParteiRepublikan.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_Nazi_Germany#Mein_Kampf
“Mein Kampf contains the blueprint of later Nazi propaganda efforts. Assessing his audience, Hitler writes in chapter VI:
Propaganda must always address itself to the broad masses of the people. (…) All propaganda must be presented in a popular form and must fix its intellectual level so as not to be above the heads of the least intellectual of those to whom it is directed. (…) The art of propaganda consists precisely in being able to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings, in finding the appropriate psychological form that will arrest the attention and appeal to the hearts of the national masses. The broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly wavering between one idea and another. (…) The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood.[6]
As to the methods to be employed, he explains:
Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side. (…) The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. (…) Every change that is made in the subject of a propagandist message must always emphasize the same conclusion. The leading slogan must of course be illustrated in many ways and from several angles, but in the end one must always return to the assertion of the same formula.”
15My very first day in law school, one of the professors wrote on the board that the first rule of practicing law is that the client will always lie to you.
16Eventually, he will go insane(r) trying to cover both Trump’s ass and his own.
17BTW, I am going just about insane absorbing the news that His Supreme Assholeness has actually invited the little snots from Cov Cath to the White House. So he has positively put himself in their corner and picked his nose and flung the boogers at the Native Americans.
18Linda Phipps, will Boofie Kavanaugh be there, too? The two ***king morons can turn the WH into a locker room demonstrating how to huff Adderall, boof a few beers and disrespect women. Family values for all; in fact Boofie’s wife, Messy and the Kremlin Barbie half of Javanka should be there to wait tables.
Mueller Team, please roll up this clown circus posthaste.
19“Tapes.” Tapes?? I thought this was the 21st century.
20Guiliani translated: JACKASS!!!!
21Rudy still needs some work to perfect his ‘Butterfield Blurt’
22Keep talking, Rudy!
23Sandridge:
24Holy crap.
I fear what rudy is doing is exposing the consequence free environment of massive wealth and a paid for judiciary/ legal framework.
He probably just can’t understand why the courts just roll over for him and the dollars he represents.
From daddy’s kkk conviction, to numorous mob connections, to NY prosecutor refusing to prosecute ivanka for criminal ( business) activities, to his flaunting of zoning housing laws rudy is used to having clients who either buy or intimidate their way out of legal repercussions.
The inane babbleing that we are hearing from rudy is the inability to come to grips with a semi functional legal system.
ps
25demented donnie should just deliver his speech at the duma wearing a diamond encrusted dog collar and leash to show acknowledgement of ownership.
Alexander Butterfield to the courtesy phone, please.
26You’d think that the GOP would have, by now (after the boof-boy experience), figured out the difference between a defense attorney and a prosecuting attorney. Apparently not… and they require very different skills.
27P.P. @24, Exactly, scary stuff.
They have such propagandizing messaging down to a science. Meanwhile the Democrats still suck at even basic messaging.
What is simpler or more effective (amongst the target audience) than a MAGA hat and its’ slogan? Even the CovCath little shits lap it up. And now, instantly reacting to the bad press, they’ve hired a GOPer PR firm to revise their crappy image; and it’s working in/on the media.
As repulsive as it is, I’d suggest that we Dems study, and use, some of the same techniques. If we want to ensure victories in 2020.
28Sandridge:
29I’m really hoping some think tanks have been doing that for awhile, although I’m not holding my breath. George Lakoff really nailed it in his book. Republicans got a coupla decades head start by pouring money and time into messaging. Thinking long-term
Which was evil-f**king genius.
Just like mein kampf.
30Gotta love this on Newsweek today.
‘Moreover, Republicans close to the White House told AP they believe Giuliani may be appearing on TV after drinking alcohol, so he should be banned from evening appearances on news shows.’
Hell, I’ll pay for this Scotch.
31Sandridge – agree with everything you said. We’re in a really scary situation.
32“As repulsive as it is, I’d suggest that we Dems study, and use, some of the same techniques. If we want to ensure victories in 2020.”
Yup, the Dems have absolutely sucked at messaging. It’s vitally important to copy successful Repub techniques and strategies if we want to have any chance at winning in 2020.
1. Take tapes and
332. Wrap tightly around Juiliani
3. Roll him into a padded room