Because, You Know, Those Ta-Tas Make You Stoopid
You know the boy who couldn’t get a date to the prom because he never bathed and his socks stank and he never combed his hair? Well, he grew up and became a Baptist preacher.
Pastor Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church
The preacher who hates gays and openly told his congregation that he prays every night for President Obama’s death (which kinda tells you what God thinks of his lamentations) now has a new enemy.
The ladies.
He then asked the congregation to flip to 1 Corinthians 14, which says “[l]et your women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, as it is commanded to be under obedience as also sayeth the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is shameful for women to speak in the church.”
Yes, the ladies are not allowed to speak or even say “Amen” in the church. If they have a question, they are to ask their husbands at home to ask the question for them at church. That, of course, is from St. Paul’s letter to the church at Corinth.
Then he doubles down with St. Timothy.
Pastor Anderson first attempted to justify the silencing of women by quoting 1 Timothy 2:11, “[l]et the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”
I guess he’s already warming up for Hillary 2016.
Now, just to prove he’s not a total hooter hater, he says, “Now obviously, before the service begins, there’s chatting and talking going on, that’s perfectly legitimate.” So, you women do your little recipe exchanges and giggling before the serve but remember too shut the hell up for men business.
Thanks to John for the heads up.
Apparently the “Faithful Word” for the pastor is ‘ignorance’.
1I would have loved to see anyone tell that to my wife.
2On our wedding invitations I printed her immortal words
“You can just forget about that obey part”
I thought my mother was going to choke laughing when she got hers in the mail.
You know who makes me cringe more than this idiot? The dumb women who CONTINUED to sit there in that church after that. I don’t understand any woman who still would go to that church (and women ALWAYS pick the church) – but then, I don’t understand any woman who votes Republican, either. They must hate themselves.
3A quote from this preacher: “Sometimes, I’m out of town, and I call my wife, and I see that my wife isn’t in the kitchen because I’m looking through the video phone! And I ask my wife why she hasn’t been in the kitchen!”
A quote from his wife Zsuszanna: “The only Biblical recourse for a horrible marriage, or any marriage for that matter, is death. If your husband is an abusive, mean, hateful, fill-in-the-blank jerk in spite of you doing your best as a wife, God can kill him whenever He wants to. If he is still alive, God must want you to still be married to him.”
She has a blog. I hope men don’t read it. I’m sure that would be sinful.
4here is pastor steven getting a little too loud with some border patrol agents. he has a history of egging on confrontations with the border patrol:
5http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVMZUgmrJrk
preach gets his come uppin’s around the 1:20 mark in the video.
I’m old.
And sometimes ….. even I…. wonder what century I’m living in.
That some brave, bold, courageous, modern woman in his congregation didn’t rise up and slap his mouth….. is totally amazing.
Oh wait… O.K. Now I know why there are not too many “modern” women in his congregation. We are talking Jan Brewer’s Arizona.
6many people discard Christianity because Christians contradict the message of the Gospel itself. Instead of following Christ’s example of service, sacrifice, and love, we’re guilty of being hypocrites—hating, hurting, ignoring, and exploiting those around us.
7Seems like every day I am given another ringing endorsement for fundamentalist Christianity.
8Phoenix, Arizona, and he’s posed on a beach? WTF?
9Somebody call 1-800-DIALATSUNAMI, please…
Zsuzsana? Went to a wedding long time ago, very small group, standing near a lake. Preacher said to bow your head, said as man obeys God, woman obeys man. My head popped up and so did my husband’s. The man almost bit through his lip trying not to laugh. That was 21 years ago. That couple divorced. We are still married.
10Misogyny, thy name is Anderson.
11Holy Gohmerts! This fool is actually married and has seven kids. Incredible …
http://www.christianpost.com/news/bible-says-gays-should-be-executed-and-i-believe-every-word-says-arizona-pastor-99583/
12Anderson’s church meets in office space in a strip mall, suggesting that it is far from being one of the mega-churches. The Westboro Baptist Church, the late Fred Phelps church in Topeka Kansas, has about forty members. The vicious hate those folks espouse appeals to few. It is unfortunate they receive the notoriety they crave. Perhaps it would be better if the media ignored them leaving them to the FBI and the organizations that monitor hate groups.
13Ah yes! This reminds me of the story about the elderly lady who had taught Baptist Sunday boys for many years, but was told she had to cease and desist because of this nonsense.
Seems like I remember Jesus had some rather strong female supporters who did some non-gender specific sharing of his teaching…Lydia, wasn’t it?
14PKM #12:
With seven kids the odds are pretty good that one of them might be one of ‘them’.
IIRC, biologically, about 12% of all humans are gay; one of seven offspring is 14.3% of the brood, sooo…
Of course science ‘n biology ‘n statistics an’ all that stuff is ‘evile’ to his ilk, so not much point in mentioning it.
(I usually stay out of this topic, but I luv to gig a reptaliban or RWNJ with facts whenever I can)
15preach’s alleged, hmmph…”church” shares an address with his alleged business selling fire prevention equipment, an obvious arson and of course alibi waiting to happen when the collection plates inevitabley spring a leak. When questioned about his Obama statements at the strip mall “church”, he whigged out on the reporter and then sent his armed minions to the reporters neighborhood knocking on doors including the reporters in search of converts, or so they said. sounds like somebody needs to stand their ground.
16http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2009/09/steven_anderson_flips_out_as_i.php
Let me note that the Faithful Word Baptist Church is not in Phoenix, but in Tempe, AZ. Let me also include one of many websites that accurately describe this so-called church as an active hate group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithful_Word_Baptist_Church
Free speech isn’t pretty, is it?
17I keep telling my very Baptists sisters that there are Old Testament xtians, New Testament xtians, and Four Gospels xtians. I consider both of my sisters pretty much the “Four Gospels” kind, who pay attention to what their leader said and did and pretty much try to do the same. These other jerks just didn’t get the memo; I’m pretty sure Paul didn’t, either.
18He has a whiny voice…kinda reminds me of Cruz.
19Not interested. This is a job for Secret Service.
20This is what happens when people make the Bible into an unquestionable idol instead of approaching it with intelligence and compassion. The Bible forbids all kinds of idolatry, but ultra-fundamentalists seem to have missed that part.
21Quoting a lady who posted on another blog in response to this same article. It’s very worth a stop-and-think:
“[G]etting out of an unhealthy-spiritually abusive environment is as complex as getting out of an abusive relationship. What I often read or hear in terms of fundamentalists is so contemptuous that it’s little wonder to me that more women in such oppressive religious systems don’t get up and just walk out. Where would they walk *to*? To those who have condemned them for being so stupid and weak for submitting to it in the first place? Women who have been abused typically feel ashamed for having allowed an abuser to victimize them…question whether they “deserved” it, and certainly whether they are worthy of love — from God or fellow human being. It would be my advice, based on experience, to speak differently about fundamentalism so as to denounce the belief system without denouncing the people who are trapped in it. It hurts the women and children who need a safe and trustworthy place or person to run *to*.”
I never had to escape an abusive church, but I definitely struggled horribly to break free of an abusive marriage; even 20 years later, the scars of shame and self-loathing are still with me. So yes, indeed, detest and speak up against this abusive jackwagon of a preacher! But please, please, please, think twice before belittling the women who attend his church – there may be FAR more suffering and struggle going on there than you know, and a far greater difficulty in escape than you can imagine.
22You know what I see in this guy? Another Timothy McVeigh. Sometime in the near future, he’s going to do something really bad. It’s a shame to think that other people will likely be hurt in the process.
23Sandridge, I don’t think that’s a beach. I think he’s standing in front of the baptismal area. Baptist churches often decorate that with clouds, perhaps to make the person being baptized feel closer to heaven. If there is a beach, it might be to make it look like the edge of the Jordan where John the Baptist had his ministry and where he baptized Jesus.
24Yes, nice baptismal painting. It is my opinion that uber-Fundamentalists of any religion are dangerous, esp. if they get involved with politics. I don’t care if the women choose to wear their hair to their waist and their skirts to the floor, or everything but their hands and eyes covered, if they want to do that. There’s all kinds of folks. But making gummint policy about who’s gonna run the country, that’s a whole different mess.
25Saint Bud says to the preacher – shove it!!!! Whats with the name and email nonsense?
26SusanF and Marge Wood,
I looked at the rawstory link JJ gave, the apparent source of the image.
JJ cropped the pic slightly, and it is an image of a beach to me: surf lapping on the sand, even the clouds depicted are like those of my Padre/GOM beaches.
I understand that it might be just a painted background image to suit the hardshells. I had assumed it was one of those com’l photographers’ props for PR purposes, not knowing much of the Baptist’s quirks.
In any case, I hope y’all got my point about this a**hole standing on a beach and if ever a big tsunami were to be justified, that would be the moment.
And Marge, I follow that uberfundy reptaliban the Rev. John Hagee of San Antonio pretty closely, so I’m more than with you on the “dangerous” aspect.
27Hagee founded CUFI ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUFI ), which has been working/lobbying OUR Congress, executive, etc., and the military for years, just trying to bring those good ol’ ‘End Times’ down around OUR ears if they can (as parroted by Sen. McLame: “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran”).
CUFI is one of the most subversive organizations ever.
PKM, they probably got those seven kids out of a catalog! I swear! I don’t know a single woman, sober or otherwise, who would put up with that **ap! I also swear they have them kids just for the purposes of the annual family Christmas card! Just like the politician who always rented a Golden Retriever to pose by the fireplace in family pictures whenever the guy was running for re-election. One more leeeeetil thing. This is the same mentality that thinks we should be at war with some country on a regular basis at least once every 10 years or sooner just so this country can prove its “virility.”
28maggie, this particular fanatic is another Rusty Yates with no concern for the health of his wife. Too bad she is in AZ where family services aren’t likely to help her and the children escape that abusive gohmert. He had to start his own ‘church,’ because he probably doesn’t actually believe. He wants total control of her and her children. A ‘church’ was the easiest way for him to sell that gohmert control to justify his tyranny.
29Do you think Anderson’s wife might benefit from this?
http://www.dovechristiancounseling.com/AbusedMinistersWives.html
30I bet he likes i when women put money in the collection plate.
31And yet again I am reminded why I despise religion. Or should I say “religion”. Where I live (in Juanita Jean’s neighborhood) I am surrounded by well-meaning Republican Christians. Some of them are Actual Christians, but many are just “Christians”. Either way, I’m tired of having their beliefs foisted on me.
32Corinne, I never saw a church that didn’t like $ put into the plate. I like lots of churches. I don’t like what I call “cranky churches” which is where I’d categorize some of the ones being discussed here.
33@Biggomama It was Paul, not Jesus, who spoke to Lydia. References in Acts and Philippians
Kay Carrasco. Thanks for sharing that comment by another poster. Ashamed to admit that had not occurred to me.
34Speaking of Paul: you know, all those letters Paul wrote were to early Christian groups (all parts of the “Church”) in various small Mediterranean towns and cities and regions. Some of the letters are very encouraging (“I think of you fondly and hope you are doing well” style) and some are more disciplinary in nature (“what’s all this I’ve been hearing about you guys in Corinth, anyway?!”). Ever since I noticed that I’ve tried to read the letters a little differently. Now, just imagine a group of holies like JJ’s Belles of Heaven starts meddling around backbiting and causing problems? What might Paul say to a group experiencing those sorts of problems? I mean, I KNOW some women like that, and I know y’all do too; thinking that Pilcher broad downpost is one of those types. A man who wrote that letter about love to the Corinthian group would not approve of her attitude or activities at all!
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