Chat Away!

August 07, 2015 By: Juanita Jean Herownself Category: Uncategorized

I thought I was going to have time to post about last night’s debate, but I don’t.

Please feel free to chat away!

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  1. e platypus onion says:

    America lost. RIP

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  2. Linda Phipps says:

    You know, e platypus, maybe not, as long as none of these silly little insects don’t actually get elected. I have seen grade school children do a better job.

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  3. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    After the ho hum and who really cares preliminary ‘event,’ the main bout was was equally dull. Possible “highlight”? – maybe T-Rump twitch slapping Ran Small. Reince old man, when your “top” tier ten make Megyn Kelly appear to be the intelligent adult in the room, you have some major party problems.

    Jane did a fantastic job of editing both debates, so the rest of us were treated to the fun moments and spared the rest of the snooze fest.

    Thanks to Jane and Jon Stewart, our party was loads of fun. We had Jon up on the projection screen and with plenty of food, drink and music we pretty much ignored the GOP for the night.

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  4. First one was mainly “blah, blah, blah, blah”.
    The second one a little more animated. Fox was certainly not fair and biased. They really tried to hit Trump hard, obvious they want him out. Jeb was unimpressive, like a boring history teacher I had in college.

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  5. 1. Trumpet ran as per type. I used to teach. Every class I ever had contained a kid who was obsessively compulsively needy for the center of attention. He really needed help. Yes, I said he. The girls do the Center of Attention thing rather differently.
    2. As for the lot of them, is this the uttermost best that party’s to offer? Then its already dead.
    2.A. Rubio amazingly spoke the truth. Hill is the only one with a resume for the top job.

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  6. I only saw excerpts. But the looniest of my many right-wing cousins in TX watched and was appalled. She thinks that it was part of a conspiracy by Fox News to destroy the Republican party. I’m sure she will still vote for their nominee like a good little sheep, but still…

    (This is not the cousin who told me that it was a really good thing we were starting a war in Iraq because it would bring about the Second Coming of Christ. The Second Coming cousin only has a tinfoil beret, not the whole sombrero.)

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  7. My favorite Trump line, “Our leaders are stupid!”

    Well, that certainly applies to the people he was sharing the stage with.

    Kallie, you are correct, it was obvious that Allies had given his minions their marching orders and that job one was try to take out Trump.

    PKM – no joke, what does it say when Megyn Kelly is the smartest person in the room….

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  8. Wa Skeptic says:

    I saved myself the agita; I watched the farewell Jon Stewart show. Much better.

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  9. I thought John Kasich was the only sane Republican in the line-up. How did he get there?

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  10. daChipster says:

    I watched both debates, start to finish. For the early debate:

    CATCH A FALLING STAR STAGE:

    Piyush Brady: has your voice broke yet, son? Also, sending the full power of the executive branch against your political enemies on day one in the White House is neither legal nor Constitutional, so end your tantrum.

    Rick Perry: Started off sounding like Adm. Stockdale. Went downhill from there. In my mind, every sentence he uttered was punctuated by an “oops” but I re-ran the tape and he never actually said it.

    Carly Fiorina: HAMMERED Trump, then claimed to have more foreign policy chops than ANYONE ELSE IN THE RACE with the exception of Hillary. Thanks for the plug, Carly! Then said Mr China, Tear Down This Great Cyberwall!

    Lindsey Graham: Sounded drunk and mushy, until he forgot a question and pivoted instead to his stump speech. Also promised to start a war on day one of the Lindsey Cotillion, err, Administration.

    Rick Santorum: Surprisingly polished and on message. A couple of dead Grandpa sightings. You can tell he has the most experience with this campaign stuff. IMHO “cowinner” with Carly. Proposed his Mandog 20/20 plan.

    Jim Gilmore: couldn’t remember his own resume.

    George Pataki: blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah 9/11

    MAIN STAGE:

    Christie: desperately throwing roundhouse punches in the hopes something connects before he’s fallen, and he can’t get up.

    Kasich: Seemed like everyone’s favorite old uncle, took some pragmatic stances, benefitted from a hometown crowd. He will look viable until South Carolina, then he will look lost.

    Rubio: Everyone’s consensus winner, looked to me like he was focused/oblivious to everything going on around him. Did not connect with the base. Early days, but he didn’t hurt himself. Of course, no sharp objects were allowed anywhere NEAR this crowd.

    Rand Paul: Oh, Randy. Go home, son.

    Ben Carson: I’m sure he’s really, really good at pediatric neurosurgery, bless his heart. He must be gunning for Surgeon General once someone else on that stage wins. Bless his heart.

    Heb!: He should have given answers in Spanish. It might have cost him some votes, but not as many as his answers in English did. Did anyone else flash back on “I’m severely conservative” Mitt?

    Scott Walker: Duh-HUH! Disney’s Goofy with a bald spot but no conscience.

    Ted Cruz: No traction. Perhaps it’s all that greasepaint on his face. Hopes to someday be a REAL boy.

    Mike Huckabee: Angry, White, Southern, Homophobic Christian with a persecution complex. (BASE!) I get the impression he really BELIEVES all this End Times Hocus Pocus. He’s no longer that lovable bass-playing doofus, but I think he has a chance to win some primaries.

    Donald Trump: still standing, despite the fact that the long knives were out for him on the FIRST QUESTION. He’s not going to go away anytime soon, even if he starts to lose ground. Everything in that debate fit into his narrative, and he wasn’t ever knocked off his stride. The more this field whittles down, the more dangerous he becomes to whomever will be the eventual nominee.

    WINNER: A couple of times during the night, FOX folks made reference to the GOP Convention taking place in that same venue in a year, and that the eventual nominee was among the 17 there. I don’t think that’s necessarily true.

    I think the eventual nominee COULD come from an open convention, and someone unsullied by the whole process could be nominated from the floor, and but, howdy! that’s one HUGE Etch-a-Sketch to shake up.

    So the winner is that guy or gal, whoever you are: FOX Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

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  11. We went back to the Red Sox game, that’s how pitiful we found the “debate”. Never thought anything could be more pitiful than the Sawx.

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  12. e platypus onion says:

    So,daChipster,tell us what you rilly think.

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  13. Ralph Wiggam says:

    Thanks daChipster, I skipped the whole show because I knew I could count on you for a concise summary.

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  14. Watched the pre-game show and found what transpired onstage appalling. Awful, leading questions from the moderators (questions with Fox’s POV) and lies straight from the pits of he11 about Planned Parenthood and Welfare from all of them. Supposedly Fiorina the disgraced HP CEO did the best, but that’s not saying much.

    Have dvr’ed but not watched most of the main show but so far think the moderator questions were better. R’s I know like Dr. Carson, but the very fact that he’s pro-torture should negate any creds he has as a doctor, shouldn’t it? (And the fact that the R’s I know like him *because* he’s a doctor and came from humble beginnings… well… I don’t understand.) I hear Kasich was the most reasonable but he’s caused problems for his state (education), has reversed his position on climate change, did the whole ultrasound before abortions thing, and worked for Lehman Bros. Ugh.

    Meanwhile, hubby and I are attending a Bernie Sanders’ event on Sunday!!! I wonder if he’ll have something to say about the R Klown Kar?

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  15. Begonia Buzzkill says:

    FOX host, Todd Starnes, is uber PO’d that Megyn Kelly had the giant chesticles to let the GOPers expose the endless war on women to the masses.

    LOL! Fans of Carly Fiorina venting their views were more likely to do so with proper grammar than fans of Donald Trump while Rick Perry’s commenters = rated second worst. http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/08/06/trump-fans-show-worst-facebook-grammar-fiorina-fans-shine/

    GOP’s Debate – The Musical
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=59&v=fXHTJ5v4B5I

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  16. JAKvirginia says:

    So everybody above, what you’re basically is I didn’t miss much. Thank you all for your fortitude in trolling through the crap and saving the rest of us the pain. Truly… thank you.

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  17. Elizabeth Moon says:

    Thanks for the info (for our sins/virtues, we can’t get FOX–would need cable and I’m not paying to be treated that way) and it sounds about like I expected. I’m not voting for any of those scumbags anyway.

    But don’t miss today’s scandal about Toddy and Cindy, the Michigan state legislators, Tea Party Christians canoodling in the statehouse…they started feuding with others in their party early (at least January this year) and Tod finally managed the negative hat trick for politicians–being caught trying to pass a (false) story about himself and a male prostitute to cover up the (true) story about himself and Cindy, so he could point to the falsity of A as a media smear campaign. A writer friend who lives in Michigan posted about this earlier today and now it’s hit the Washington Post even. Shot himself in both feet and the gonads in one day. And the Michigan Tea Partyers are praying for the pair. It belongs on a soap opera.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/08/07/a-michigan-state-rep-reportedly-tried-to-fake-a-male-prostitution-scandal-to-hide-his-relationship-with-another-republican-state-rep/

    I wrote and put up elsewhere a set of verse about this, based as much on what Steven (the guy in Michigan) told me as anything else.

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  18. Elizabeth Moon says:

    Oh, and if you’re a female politician whose last name is “Gamrat”–do NOT canoodle with anyone. It’s too easy.

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  19. e platypus onion says:

    Loved the link,Elizabeth Moon. I love it when wingnuts grovel.

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  20. Elizabeth Moon, Wonkette has a terrific, snarky write-up on T&C. I hung out there during the debate, enjoying the live blogging.

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  21. Marge Wood says:

    Sounds like a good time was had by all.

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  22. I didn’t watch it!
    I don’t watch Faux News…
    That stuff can rot your brain…
    I’ll wait for the Highlights and Lowlifes…

    I believe the 1st question sums up the entire debate…

    BAIER: Gentlemen, we know how much you love hand-raising questions. So we promise, this is the only one tonight: the only one. Is there anyone on stage, and can I see hands, who is unwilling tonight to pledge your support to the eventual nominee of the Republican party and pledge to not run an independent campaign against that person.

    Again, we’re looking for you to raise your hand now — raise your hand now if you won’t make that pledge tonight.

    Mr. Trump.

    Mr. Trump to be clear, you’re standing on a Republican primary debate stage.

    TRUMP: I fully understand.

    BAIER: The place where the RNC will give the nominee the nod.

    TRUMP: I fully understand.

    BAIER: And that experts say an independent run would almost certainly hand the race over to Democrats and likely another Clinton.

    You can’t say tonight that you can make that pledge?

    TRUMP: I cannot say. I have to respect the person that, if it’s not me, the person that wins, if I do win, and I’m leading by quite a bit, that’s what I want to do. I can totally make that pledge. If I’m the nominee, I will pledge I will not run as an independent. But — and I am discussing it with everybody, but I’m, you know, talking about a lot of leverage. We want to win, and we will win. But I want to win as the Republican. I want to run as the Republican nominee.

    BAIER: So tonight, you can’t say if another one of these…

    PAUL: This is what’s wrong!

    BAIER: OK.

    PAUL: I mean, this is what’s wrong. He buys and sells politicians of all stripes, he’s already…

    BAIER: Dr. Paul.

    PAUL: Hey, look, look! He’s already hedging his bet on the Clintons, OK? So if he doesn’t run as a Republican, maybe he supports Clinton, or maybe he runs as an independent…

    BAIER: OK.

    PAUL: …but I’d say that he’s already hedging his bets because he’s used to buying politicians.

    TRUMP: Well, I’ve given him plenty of money.

    BAIER: Just to be clear, you can’t make a — we’re gonna — we’re going to move on.

    You’re not gonna make the pledge tonight?

    TRUMP: I will not make the pledge at this time.

    BAIER: OK. Alright.

    There ya have it…
    Support your frontrunner…
    It’s all you have…

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  23. Sam in San Antonio says:

    I believe Donald Trump in an endangered feces.

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  24. Aggieland Liz says:

    Ya know, he’s had YEARS in the entertainment bidness and by Gawd he’s entertaining!

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  25. So Rubio / Fiorina vs Clinton / Castro?

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  26. maryelle says:

    Kudos to Sam in San Antonio for “endangered feces”

    The fallout AFTER the debate is far more entertaining in that Trump cannot let go of his perceived unfair treatment by Megyn Kelly. His overt misogyny and penchant for revenge have spewed all over the place, causing Republicans to further isolate him lest he further damage their “outreach to women”.

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  27. It’s just too funny. T-rump is too busy and doesn’t have time to be “politically correct,” but he has all the time in the world to spend on Twitter! According to him, it is not “an eye for an eye,” it’s a head for an eye. He may (or may not) be very rich, but he is definitely trashy. “Endangered feces” is right, Sam in SA!

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  28. What I’ve gathered is that Trump was ready for Megyn Kelly’s question about running as an independent. It’s his one and only chance at the nomination.
    Sort of an “or else” position.

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  29. e platypus onion says:

    Pennsylvania AG under indictment for perjury,etc and she is a Democrat. Damn wingnut lawyers have rotted the whole profession. Dem guv and others have called for her resignation.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/06/politics/kathleen-kane-attorney-general-indictment/index.html

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  30. Mary Beth says:

    what I have noticed about the whole Trumpapalusa, is that Fox didn’t get excited about Trump’s misogyny until he started winning. Then they send Megyn after him, so he looks worse (if possible). It was clever and it might just backfire. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group.

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  31. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    Mary Beth, you are correct about Fox Not the News and T-Rump. Now???!! they complain about T-Rump. If misogyny is the new Fox shiny object, then Fox better start handing out the pink slips to the misogynists on their payroll. I’d vote for Kilmeade to be the first smirking face slapped with a pink slip. Oh, and Bilgo, too – he’s a real model of misogyny. There are probably worse examples of misogyny at Fox, but as I don’t watch their shows I’m unable to give a complete list.

    Then again, didn’t observe any of the other 16 candidates in favor of equal rights for women. They simply kept their misogyny at dog whistle level or slightly above, the understatement for killing women through forced birth.

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  32. Hahaha! Y’all are so good!

    Begonia Buzzkill says: “chesticles”

    Sam says: “endangered feces”

    So many more. Thank you all, from the heart of my bottom for providing the very best part of the whole entertainment event.

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  33. maryelle says:

    Pennsylvania’s Attorney General, Kathleen Kane, may be yet be proved innocent. She has steadfastly supported our new Democratic Governor, Tom Wolf, in a Republican majority state congress. It seems the Repugs don’t like being treated like they treated Democrats. Here’s hoping she’s able to prove that those charges are false.

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  34. Elizabeth Moon says:

    Just to add thrill to the day (not), a 19 year old black college student, unarmed, was shot by a Forth Worth rookie policeman last night. No bodycam, no (or not yet found) security camera footage that makes clear what happened. What happened is there’s another dead black teenager who–whatever he was doing–wasn’t armed and wasn’t ever given a day in court to explain himself.

    In my opinion, no rookie policeman should be allowed to carry a firearm while he continues tactical firearm training (e.g., making choices while in a scary situation) for at least a year, nor should he be carrying a firearm without a body camera. Which the FW police department says officers “are in the process of receiving” but “don’t have them yet.” (Rookie officers should be the first to receive them; they’re the ones most likely to make procedural errors, I’d think.) It’s too handy to make up scenarios that justify shooting (or choking to death) when there’s no concrete evidence of what happened, and we know from situations where such evidence exists that police do in fact lie. Not always, but once is too often when death can be the outcome.

    I am so [redacted] sick of this. Not as sick as the black community, no doubt. But today on Ravelry (knitting/crochet site) a white policeman’s wife was complaining about a group of black knitters in Ferguson, MO, who knit in public and when asked what they’re doing say they’re knitting for black liberty. She said some hateful things (the word “thug” was used). And then this. And Sandra Bland. And MichaelBrownEricGarnerTamirRice. And somanyothers. And dragging this back to the GOP debates, not one of those scumsuckers on the stage gives a tinker’s dam when a black teenager is shot down.

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  35. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    Elizabeth Moon, there’s a pattern here. Cops shot their latest victim, Christian Taylor, within 1.3 seconds. Not sure of the ‘total’ time in the Tamir Rice killing, but the cruiser wasn’t yet at a complete stop. In the other all too many instances of police violence, the videos speak volumes.

    Knitting for liberty. I like that as being very reminiscent of Madame DeFarge of Tale of Two Cities fame. Pay attention cops and Republicons.

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  36. Begonia Buzzkill says:

    Eric Erickson, the newly minted feminist….who refers women as “marxist harpies” or “ugly feminazis” who should “get in the kitchen and learn to cook.” dis-invited Trump from his redneckistani event he’s having. Eric is not pleased with Trump insulting FOX harem girl, Megyn Kelly’s girly girl-ness. Trump says he’s proud he’s no longer welcome.

    On the flip side…on cue…is a petition to have Megyn Kelly barred from hosting or moderating all Republican Presidential Debates….because she’s NOT Fair & Balanced (psst, that IS a requirement at FOX) Coincidentally…NOM’s Brian Brown issued a rant with identical language found in the petition.

    The gays….can take off their Kevlar & take a vacation for a minute since: Candidate, I’m the only one in the debate who separated Siamese twins Carson, fist pounding warns that Trump running as an Independent would “destroy America…and America will be gone as we know it.” Apparently the gay agenda provided sea to shining sea leftovers that could still be destroyed.

    “Trump is a Trojan Horse sent by the crafty Clinton machine. He has a bellyful of swords aimed at GOP hearts.” “He speaks in simplistic polarities of ‘winners’ versus ‘losers,’ as if geopolitics were a jangling Atlantic City casino.” – verklempt vagisaurus Camille Paglia wrote in the Hollywood Reporter.

    AND..the two married bible thumping tea bag politicians boffing “at dozens of trysts at the Raddison Hotel” while blaming gays for destroying families to legislate bible bigotry on the chamber floor …..were known about and covered up by the highest echelons of the Michigan GOP for months. So expert, they are, at quashing holier than thou hypocrisy from the news …the FOIA requests for the police report & 911 call by the hotel who reported a hostile scary husband who busted his wife & her lover in the act many months ago ….were hidden from view.

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  37. e platypus onion says:

    From the T-Rump campaign about Erickson – By the way, the guy (Erick Erickson) who made the decision about RedState called Supreme Court Justice David Souter a “goat [expletive] child molester” and First Lady Michelle Obama a “Marxist Harpy.” He was forced to make a humbling apology.–

    Civility is shining through. Hooraw fer ‘murrica.

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  38. L Lester says:

    I saw as much as I could take of the Happy Hour forum and the crazy debate of the ten golden boys!! I had to take a Pepto Bismal afterwards and then wondered, what happened to the election process and wonder why people in this country would want to see Fox News as the grand facilitator of these so called debates–it looks like FOX is running the Republican party and has decided to run it as a Reality TV show–Roger Ales dream come true!! Corporations are people and money is speech is really here!!
    I forgot to pay attention who was running the ads so I could make sure to boycott their products–However Quicken Loans was at the top of the list!!

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  39. north coast says:

    Begonia Buzzkill-
    “verklempt vagisaurus Camille Paglia”-
    OMG, you’re the best!!

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