Tonight’s Debate
Yes, I will be watching. I bet you will, too. Please feel free to make any comment you want and I’ll check here every now and then to approve those that need approving.
Fun story – this afternoon my RING doorbell kept going off every five minutes. I’d look on my phone and nobody was there. After about 30 minutes of this, I went to see if I had a ghost. Nope, no ghost, but my librarian boy left us a little gift on our flagpole and it was setting off the doorbell. It’s windy here today.
slipstream voted today. Not gonna watch the debate, but will come back to appreciate all the snarky comments.
1I’m going to record this, then maybe I’ll watch it later. I want to sleep tonight, not be revved up to screaming at the TV…
2What’s the record for Trump Lies Per Minute (T-L/min?) I think he broke it at least 10 times in the first 15 minutes.
If lies were a penny each, he’s already blown whatever remained of his fortune.
3So far it looks like trump’s on his meds.
4Lying through his teeth.
But on his meds.
Pillows and sheets. That’s what I’m taking away from this debate.
5Thanks for updates, I just couldn’t get myself to watch it live. His legacy will be 300,000 coronavirus deaths by January 20 (along with many more atrocities) and about the same number of lies in 5 years. He’s what I call a lying pig with orange makeup.
6I’m terrified that the moderator is letting Trump look good. She is not cutting off his mic when she should. Yeah they have that rule about the two minutes for the initial answer. But she’s letting him run roughshod over his replies. And we need a fact-checker in real-time scrolling across the bottom of the screen.
7He is being forced to control himself just enough to make him look better. This is not working for me at all.
8We started watching the football game and then I decided that I had already done my civic duty by voting, so it wasn’t like the debate would change my mind. Surprisingly, when I switched over during the commercials, I kept finding Joe talking and the Orange Moron making the occasional face. From the little bit I saw, this is nothing like the last debate. Which is a good thing.
9I watched a little, then i got an urge to clean my gun so I turned off the screen.
10Okay so maybe he didn’t pay a lot of attention to dosages.
11I comfort myself that I don’t think this is convincing any of the undecided. My God he’s a disgusting human being. And the moderator is only sort of doing her job. Cutting off the initial 2 minutes yes. She’s letting Trump run roughshod over the reply. And there needs to be a scrolling fact check at the bottom of the screen.
12Yeah, I know I already said that. I’m terrified that I will really need to leave the country, and I am too old and too poor to do that.
13She’s not cutting his mic when she should. I am going to try to shut up now. It was a good idea in principle, but the mic cut off should be at the moderator’s discretion. This format the way it’s being handled is making him look better. My only hope is that it won’t convince the undecided. I know for sure his base isn’t going to change. He will never lose the jackasses.
14What CNN is saying. He behaved sort of like a regular human being but he lied like Pinocchio. Unfortunately only the people who continue after the end of the debate will know that he lied like Pinocchio.
15Starting at 11 pm ET, the folks from The Lincoln Party will be doing an analysis and commentary at YouTube, LPTV: The Breakdown. I didn’t watch the debate except for maybe a minute. Just can’t take listening to Trump. This I am staying up for (Well, it’s only 8 pm Seattle time; 7 pm Alaska…sorry, don’t know the Texas time zone, but I’m guessing it’ll be at 9 pm.)
16…10 pm Texas time. It starts in about 15 minutes.
17IMHO Uncle Joe did pretty good.
18And I think f**king trump started getting more douchebagish because Joe baited him into it.
Hell yeah.
Talking about the children in cages. At the end of Joe’s comments, Trump muttered *Good*.
What was the pillows and sheets thing about?
“Nancy dancing in the streets of Chinatown when she heard about the China virus”
“Joe’s been living in his basement.”
I’m really hoping I misheard some of his comments, because they were vile.
19I think Trump’s face in the end of the debate said it all. He was not happy. Not at all. But I do agree, this format (muted mics) gave him some undeserved credit.
20And yes, Dancing Nancy and Basement Joe were my favourites too. Along with “wind energy is killing the birds.”
Joe did very good IMO.
… and there was something Trump said about immigrants with “lower IQ”. That was absolutely disgusting.
21About the moderator – I would give her 8,5 points out of 10.
Kate Dungan @19:
22So much of what he said was outrageous lies. But a lot of them were the most effective lies. That had the smallest kernel of truth. Misrepresented, taken out of context, and totally turned around to prove the opposite of the truth.
But the numbers were reported in the mainstream media.
Then stephen miller, the cato institute, alex jones, the G.R.U. etc. created the alternative truths, and distributed the foxplained versions to the infrastructure, and they’re probably lighting up Facebook, Instagram and Twitter as we speak. That’s what passes for verification of sources in today’s repugnantcan journalistic machine.
I was only able to watch because my hubby was in a part of the house where he couldn’t hear me yell or laugh maniacally (he shushes me if I do). Orange45 lied and blathered on, a bright red angry face, dilated pupils (drugs), no apologies, no empathy, no plans, just attack and lie. Joe’s closing statement (thankfully *after* trump’s) was wonderful, a huge contrast to the blob next to him. Melania and Jill came onstage afterwards, the former in all dull black, Jill a breath of fresh air in a lovely floral print with matching fabric mask. Such a great visual representation of who the candidates are. Jill and Joe embracing, the couple in a strictly financial arrangement not.
And for some good news:
CNN focus group of 11 undecided voters in NC.
9 say Biden won.
2 say it was a draw.
0 say Trump won.
In North Carolina!!!
23Two and a half hours after the end of the debate and CNN & MSNBC are doing debate analysis.
24Fox news?
Just the news.
Business as usual.
Nothing to see here folks.
Move along.
And the tiny windows. You can’t forget about the tiny windows!
25This morning I keep thinking about his comment that only immigrants with low IQs show up for their immigration hearing. This is the same comment as “I don’t pay taxes because I am smart.” He really thinks gaming the system is what everyone does. Trump measures success based on how much money he makes. Most of us measure success based on how well we all do and how the planet is doing.
26Yes, it’s a given that the incumbent always does an awful job in the first debate then does better in the second [which Trump refused to attend so THAT bet was off, in any case.]
But Trump’s strategy seemed to be quite novel:
27First debate: place the bar at the bottom of one of those coal mines he claims to love so much.
Second debate: skip it and try to sabotage Biden’s town hall [and fail miserably.]
Third debate: clear the bar he set in the first debate. If we count only his deranged behavior, he succeeded. If we count the number of lies he told, he failed. Miserably. Again.
“Dr” Ronny must have been hidden in Donnie’s podium carefully adjusting the meds in his hidden IV line. There’s no other explanation for why the 2 minute rule didn’t drive Donnie into a complete meltdown. If anyone thought Donnie ‘won’ that debate, they need to have a blood sample taken along with Donnie.
Gambling is legal in NV, but I never bet the ponies. There’s too much about horse racing that’s akin to Republicon politics. Horse doping and they cheat.
Nice story from Boston about how voting should happen. Mayor Marty Walsh and the Red Sox organization opened Fenway park to early voting. Nearly 4000 people voted and no one waited in line more than an hour to vote. Voting made easy – that’s small d democracy. We need more of that.
Many thanks to Ms. JJ and Mr. Maxey for everything they do for democracy in Texas. Winning made all the more special by doing it the right way.
28Jane & PKM @ 27,
Dr. Ronnie must have slipped some Zanax with some Zoloft in his Diet Coke.
29Papa @29, have next to zero knowledge about drugs. But Donnie on an even keel for nearly the first half of the debate? He lied, of course. But he didn’t go ballistic at the end of his 2 minute blocks, and really was a bit of a pussy until almost the 45 minute mark. But that seems more the work of finely tuned anesthesia than a dose or two of something something pre-debate.
30Seen on CNN 10/23:
On the banner splashed across the bottom of the screen, “Breaking News! President wanted to play by the rules during last debate!”
It’s just too bad he failed.
The narrator asked him a question, he rambled without answering it for the allotted 2 minutes. At the end of his time, she moved on to ask the same question of Biden and Trump yelled at her saying, “I didn’t answer!”
Right. You didn’t. And the rule was, you had 2 minutes to answer. Too bad, so sad. You don’t get extra time for refusing to follow the rules.
31P. S. Only with Trump would that banner merit the tag, “Breaking News.”
32From all I’ve read (couldn’t stand to listen to Trumpf or look at him on teevee “highlights”), the main storyline is the number of lies he told. That can’t be good for his appeal to undecided voters. He can’t say at his rallies this week that it was fake news.
33The other thing that should have consequences were his statements about IQs of immigrants. I hope families of all immigrants that were undecided or not planning to vote do so now.
As for his calmer demeanor, BFD.
Now a week of taxpayer funded campaign rallies. Those will be totally unhinged and crazy. One more frickin week.
That didn’t take long. The “both sides” jack wagons are giving Donnie credit for acting vaguely sane for 2 minutes out of every 10, and not addressing all of the lies he managed to pack into way more than his share of the 90 minutes. Then condemning Biden for apparently having glanced at his watch. Lard o’Mercy! Trapped on a stage with Covidiot 45, who wouldn’t be sneaking a peek to see if that eternal indignity was even moving along the time continuum? Where’s the praise for not picking up the podium and installing it in the Liar-in-Thief’s mouth as a cork stopper on the whine?
34Jane & PKM says:
… condemning Biden for apparently having glanced at his watch.
Hey, I glance at my watch when I read Trump’s Tweets.
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