That’s It!
Last night while watching the GOP debate, I kept getting a feeling of deja vu. Bubba told me it was deja poo.
But, I seriously had an odd feeling that I’d been there before. Then it hit me.
Remember when you went to camp in the summer and you all sat around the campfire at night and told made-up scary stories while holding a flashlight under your chin, trying to scare the beejeebers out of everybody?
Ding!
That’s what last night was.
Well, that and some stuff meant solely to scare little children who need brain surgery.
And that whole Ted won’t shuddup episode.
Yeah, maybe Bubba was right.
like many other voters i depend upon”expert” analysis the morning after these “debates”. when watching the 700 bunch
1i fell out of my rocking chair when pat R remarked about so many well qualified candidates attacking each other!! what????
Hate, fear, and greed are selling better this season that God, guns, and gays. They gotta keep up with a changing market.
2They just following up on Nixon’s southern strategy or to quote Nathen Bedford Forrest “Shoot everything that’s blue and keep the scare up.”
3Anna Marie Cox summerized it on one tweet: http://www.vox.com/2015/12/15/10270134/gop-debate-cnn-december-one-tweet
4Bunch of folks trying to figure out where the crowd is going, so they can get in front and pretend to be leaders.
Content aimed at people with 4th-grade education and no thinking skills at all – ignorant, racist, frightened people. 🙁
5The night the snacilbupeR cried “Wolf,” and I am not talking about CNN’s moderator.
6They’re trying to scare us to the point where we’re too afraid to look under our own beds or in our closets. Because then we can be convinced that instead of nothing under our beds and only clothes in our closets, there are Muslims, and/or social programs that use your closet, or the space under your bed to shelter a lazy or dangerous homeless person named Mr. Boogeyman.
7Huffington Post said it best, Fear AND Loathing!
All you need to know about republicans.
And did Ted Cruz leak classified info last night?
8Inquiring minds want to know!
Have these nitwits EVER actually debated a damn thing? No, they haven’t. They just show up so they can say they’ve been on the teevee and ain’t they just wonderful!?!
I didn’t watch it but I turned on MSNBC to catch the highlights once it was over and done with … that’s all I needed to see to know it was another wasted night in Las Vegas!!
They are like a bunch of pimple-faced teens doing their best to one-upsmanship the other and failing miserably!
Hillary or Bernie will definitely be the next one in the White House!! I like Bernie but I’m voting for Hillary!!
9Did you notice that the day after the Texas elections last November, ISIS and Ebola crossing the Rio Grande, directed by Obama, mysteriously disappeared from the daily discourse? All these miscreants have is fear mongering directed toward a substantial segment of the population that actually believe we are in danger of being overrun by a bunch of guys in pickup trucks and no air power, currently seven or eight thousand miles away. Where has logic and reason gone?!
10So strange that the people who brag the most about how brave Americans are tend to be scared of everything except aging white males and global warming.
11Donnie took Jeb’s lunch money. Carly’s phone number was written on a stall in the boys’ room. Rand said ‘neiner, neiner’ to Ben. Teddie and Marco played with spit wads. Chris raised his hand, only to identify a dead and ergo not current King of Egypt. Lindsey cried on his way home on the short bus. And, six were absent that day due to ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).
12“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”
—- Hermann Goering, Nuremberg Trial, 1946
I agree with LynnN– the folks who crow about how big and badass America is are the ones who see bogeymen under every bed and have to carry a gun to supermarket and church to protect themselves from the assorted Chupacabras. They need to grow up.
13That debate should have been called “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”.
14Did anyone else notice that Trump’s hair looked more “presidential?” It appeared darker, more styled and didn’t seem to have a life of its own like usual. He even seemed to have a bit of gray at the temples. Trying to look more distinguished, perhaps, and not so much like the flaming Fascist that he is.
15@Rhea
You have transgressed Godwin’s Law of Nazi Analogies. With good reason of course, so this is just a warning.
@TTPT
Does this mean Spunky the muskrat has been replaced or has Spunky just been tinted?
I didn’t spend any of my precious life energy watching the ship of fools docking in Lost Wages. I’m happier for not. But I do look forward to the morning after the Dem Convention. This will be a labor of love, whoever the Dem candidate winds up being.
16Wouldn’t be nice if What happened last night in Vegas could stay in Vegas, forever?
17A couple of quick things. First, even Godwin has admitted that there are places here Nazi analogies are valid, in a recent piece (WaPo? I didn’t make a note.).
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Secondly, can we please stop acting like Republicans in one way, They automatically dismiss anything Obama says or does, or attacks it, just because it comes from him. The fact is that, buried in all the lies and horror stioriess, there were a few good ideas there — though exploring them usually shows that the original problem comes from the Republicans and from their budget cutting. Yes, the ‘sequester’ has kept us from doing some necessary modifying and updating to the ‘nucleafr triad.’ Obama has done a remarkable job at remaking the armed forces for this century, but there are areas where we need the old type stuff kept, but updated. (Of course, the Republicans would hve spent ALL the money on old-style stuff, more bombers than we need, more older categories of planes and ships, etc.)
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Fiorina is almost certainly right that the Government tech is very outdated — that is notorious. Get help from the private sector, and even some high level users on updating it. (Then spend the money to do it, which the Republican Congress wuld never do.)
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And everybody who pointed out how we needed to work with Muslims against the terrorists were right — but they didn’t tak it the further step of pointing out that Trumpeting and Cruz control ARE causing ISIS recruitment.
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Even Trump was right in bringing up the better use we could have made with our money by working on the infrastructure — but, of course, would have taken the money from the wrong places.
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They’re still all horrors who would destroy th country, but that doesn’t mean they can’t occasionally find a nuggest of gold in the pile of shit.
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Oh, and on the ‘horse race’ part, Trump and Cuz are picking up on the rpidly disappearing Carson support. (“Why were we supporting this guy in the first place?” is heard more and more.) JEB! and Rubio are still cancelling each other out, and Rubio is still going to have a hard time even being heard by thee ‘base.’ Paul and Carson are sliding off he table, but I thin there might be a bump for Fiorina and a bigger one for Christie — remember this is NOT muy opinion, but how I think Republicans will respond.)
Marcia in CO: How about voting for Bernie in the primary? Then if he doesn’t make it, you can vote for Hillary in the general. It’s a win/win situation, and Bernie is less beholden to the corporate establishment. That’s even more of a win/win.
19Prup (aka Jim Benton), why should we waste time wading through all the snacibupeR nastiness in an effort to cobble together a few ‘gems’? Anything good that any of them might accidentally strike upon is cancelled by the sure evils of their foreign ‘policies’ and economic obedience to their masters. President Obama knew all those things and more which could have been accomplished in the past 7 years, if not for snacibupeR obstructionism.
I’m not into exercises in futility.
Saving my vote for Senator Sanders in the primary; he has plans, good plans. Worst case scenario in the general is that I hold my nose and pull the lever for Sec/Sen Clinton. She’s both a hawk and a DINO, but a thousand shades of light above any of the snacilbupeR.
20Prup: Like what you wrote but have to agree with PKM on this. Those “good ideas” of theirs are obvious to anyone who thinks. I won’t give them credit for tossing up the ‘gems’ that people like Bernie understood years ago. And why should I shovel through all of their sh*t to find them?
Just sayin’.
21@Prup (aka Jim Benton)
Disclaimer: I don’t like Carly Fiorina. That is unlikely to change.
The reason I don’t is the same reason I don’t want her in government at any level. She took a fine tech company with a egalitarian culture (“The HP Way”, “What would Bill and Dave do?”) and tried to turn it into a technical conglomerate, a VC’s dream. A Bain dream! I utterly disagree with the assimilation of Compaq. I utterly disagree with “laying off” thousands of people to make poor decisions financially palatable.
In the end the decaying HP board ran her off. Right move I thought at the time and still do.
So you are right, I “automatically dismiss anything” Snarly “says or does, or attacks it, just because it comes from” her. This won’t stop.
So far as her assessment of US government computer systems is concerned, see above. I don’t trust her judgment in any domain.
22Micr: “So far as her assessment of US government computer systems is concerned, see above. I don’t trust her judgment in any domain.”
Yes indeed, Micr! All I saw in that pile of dog droppings from Carly was an oblique attempt at self-serving job seeking. If she can’t finagle a position in government, she’d be all too happy to sneak in the back door of tech. She has been unemployed and irrelevant for years and it is best she remains that way.
May she fold her “golden parachute” five ways, shove it and air drop onto one of her yachts from 100 feet.
23“Fiorina is almost certainly right that the Government tech is very outdated — that is notorious. Get help from the private sector, and even some high level users on updating it. (Then spend the money to do it, which the Republican Congress wuld never do.)”
I would like to point out that many of the most outrages tech upgrade failures are products of the private sector “helping” the feds. IRS, FAA, VA, etc. The blame generally goes to the bureaucrats are over their head, or looking for the next job, but it does speak to the morals and patriotism of some of the largest members of the MIC.
24PKM, it’s just like when the kids show up and say WE WON WE WON! You won what? WE WON FIELD DAY! Really. WELL, THEY SAID THEY WON BUT WE REALLY WON.
25I watched with my friends in the Twitterverse. I highly recommend it. Many tweets were absolutely hilarious! It was all more palatable that way. One of every 100 tweets were supportive of the snacilbupeR. Many were insightful and smart. Still, I couldn’t make it all the way through the sideshow.
26What Gee_gg said. When I worked on NASA projects back in the 1980s and early 1990s (as an employee of contractor and subcontractor companies), private-sector companies built the systems with NASA personnel mostly in roles of contract oversight. And the examples Gee_gg cited add further weight to the fact that the private sector has as much trouble or more than government agencies deploying high-tech systems.
27Rachel Maddow had a segment on the placement of the Vegas GOP “debate”. It was held at the Venetian Hotel which is owned by Sheldon Adelson who sat hisownself right smack in the front row. He also met with 4 of the candidates prior to the show and expressed his support for Cruz. This guy put up more billions in the last presidential election for his fave, Newt Gingrich, then had to settle for Romney as the candidate and Obama as President. He’s up to his old tricks again, trying to buy the presidency. Let’s hope all his bucks go down the drain again.
28Oh, and Adelson is the mystery man who paid billions in cash for the Las Vegas Review, the city’s man rag. Wonder why???
29For an illustration of the private computer sector assisting the government sector, look no further than Oracle’s debacle with the Oregon Health website. AAARGH!! And Oregon didn’t get any money back on that deal.
Makes you wonder how NASA was as successful as it was.
I’m all for devoting our national priorities to repairing our disastrously decrepit infrastructure, updating our governmental computerized systems (SS, Medicare, airport tracking of planes, etc.), maintaining our defenses, and not indulging the Halliburton fools in their screaming for out-of-country invasions.
Unfortunately, this does tend to leave out our undeclared war in the Middle East against ISIL. But them there are my opinions. YMMV.
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