Pam Geller is a Jerk
If you hang around the beauty salon long enough, you will get to meet every goofball who ever set foot in Texas.
Pamela Geller is one of them. She is a woman itching to get somebody shot. She is the most virulent anti-Muslim person on the face of the damn western hemisphere.
She tried to speak here a couple of years ago and we did a peaceful protest. That was when she was claiming that President Obama was the love chid of Malcolm X.
Well, she held a “Draw Muhammed Contest” in Garland, Texas (think Dallas) and, as could be predicted, gun men showed up. They shot an unarmed security guard. Police returned fire and killed both of them.
Geller was dancing in the streets. She could not have been happier even if Roy Rogers rode up on Trigger.
One of the suspects has been identified.
Look, I am a defender of free speech. I will defend until my death the right of somebody to say hateful things wherever and whenever they want. I am also a believer in personal responsibility. You should be willing to take personal responsibility for your free speech and not expect an unarmed security guard to take a bullet for what you want to say.
Pam Geller can kiss my bible butt.
Worrying about our country getting caught in the crossfire.
1It was meant to provoke violence and it succeeded. Wonder what the results would be if somebody held a make-fun-of Jesus event? There’s be a lot more than 2 gunmen, and they’d all be white, KKKristian wackos. Geller is a dangerous nutjob, as is anybody who attended that fiasco.
2maryelle, you beat me to it! As soon as I saw the story on the TV chyron, I was thinking the same thing.
3Geller is gleefully awaiting the backlash. Next up, mosque burnings and attacks on individual Muslims?
UK Govt is probably sighing in relief. Pamela Geller has been banned from entering England for years. They wrote, “After careful consideration, the Home Secretary personally directed that you should be excluded from the United Kingdom on the grounds that your presence here is not conducive to the public good.
“The Home Secretary has reached this decision because you have brought yourself within the scope of the list of unacceptable behaviours by making statements that may foster hatred which might lead to inter-community violence in the UK.”
Unfortunately we’re stuck with the hate-mongering fanatic.
4The right wing has a covenant with death. Other people’s lives don’t matter to them. Watch for a little water bloat on Pam. She and the rest of that fundie-Likudnik alliance feed on human misery.
Am I the only person who sees her as Menachim Begin got up as a hooker?
5To add to Marynelle’s comment, Geller thought this one through. Set up a highly provocative event in a reactionary setting. Set it up so that as many volatile fringe groups as possible are agitated. And then wait. Odds are that she will do a follow-on rally…..
What an incredible excuse for a human being.
6And I wonder what the corporations moving to this area are thinking (Dallas, Collin Counties). I know some of the Toyota folks moving from CA are not happy….lower cost of living be darned.
7is it upagan like for me to wish they had shot her? I’ll ask the Goddess for forgivness.
8Notice she didn’t hold her special art contest in her own town? This piece of garbage (my apologies to garbage which makes great compost & gives life) is probably gleeful over this incident.
What a disgusting legacy she’s made for herself. Her father, Satan, must be so proud.
9@Lorraine in Spring
10Pretty much what my child bride thought. Called Geller “spawn of Satan”.
She is about as needed as the plague.
11This isn’t the free speech equivalent of yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. It’s the equivalent of inviting an arsonist to a crowded theater, just so you can yell “fire.” There is a special place in hell for this woman. I hope she opens an art gallery there, soon.
In the meantime, I hope the security guard sues the ever-loving $#!7 out of her, for deliberately provoking an attack, especially as the featured speaker has an al Qaeda death threat over his head.
In the end, these two sad sacks thought they were voicing their religious objection. Rare is the story where the bad guys in a shooting are on both sides, but…
12Well, at least the two attackers were able to exercise their God-given right to open carry.
Though it didn’t seem to work out really well for them.
13Hundreds of Muslims begged and pleaded with their fellows to ignore this event. One even started a hashtag theft featuring people posting pictures of Muhammad (anyone named Muhammad — Muhammad Ali would be a good choice) as a way of mocking this charlatan. (Hmmm Geller, any relation to that other charlatan Uri?). But 2 booger eaters decided to give her what she wanted.
14This NY based hate group spent a LOT of money trolling in Texas. They rented a 6800 seat auditorium, which the local police required them to spend an additional $10k on 40 extra security guards, another $10K for the prize, they fly in an international speaker, all for an event attended by 200 people, mostly from out of state. They spent hundreds of dollars per-attendee to put on this show. Someone has deep pockets and a determined agenda.
15@Angelo Frank
16Yes. But that was all Geller’s payback for a pro-Islam to do that was held in the Center just after Charlie Hebdo. Their were protests and counter-protests but no violence. Geller demands violence.
If your idea of “defending freedom of speech” is to intentionally make fun of someone else’s religious beliefs then you’re not defending freedom of speech, you’re just being a dick.
17Two quotes below from JJ’s Reuters news item link.
Can anybody tell me what is f#&ked up about this?
Maybe it might be that an unarmed, probably barely above minimum wage, security guard (mall cop) takes heavy fire from whackjobs with serious firepower, and is lucky enough to just be wounded? And it sounds as if the attendees were possibly exposed too (not that they count for much as likely RWNJ’s…).
While unknown numbers of police, SWAT teams, DPS, FBI and BATF agents, and who knows what other LEO assets (helo’s, drones, wireless intel, etc.) let the shooting begin at the exposed, hapless (and probably unwarned) guard before reacting.
Did the poor (but damned lucky) guard even have an armored vest on? You can bet the LEO’s were wearing the finest protective gear our tax money will buy.
Sure, the baddies got wasted pretty quickly, but I hope the incident reports advise a better approach the next time (and there will be next times).
“Police in Garland, Texas, said they had planned security for months around the controversial exhibit and contest, and that a bomb squad, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a SWAT team and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were all in place on Sunday night in case of any incidents.”
“The two suspects drove up to the building as the event was ending, and opened fire with automatic rifles at an unarmed security officer, striking him in the leg. “
18Professional Haters…. (those who profit from spreading hatred) are constantly on the look out for ways to increase profits.
Geller is a professional hater. This despicable display was her latest money maker.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has her pegged. She’s the head of a bunch of Islamic bigots. Ironically, you do reap what you sow. Hate…begets more hate. … ……
19Mel said: “What an incredible excuse for a human being.” I think he meant “execrable!”
20I wish I could “like” all these comments. And just to expand upon what Don A said: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/04/muslims-defend-pam-geller-s-right-to-hate.html?via=desktop&source=twitter
21When one pokes a hornet’s nest one should not be surprised if one gets stung. Likewise, innocent bystanders have a right to sue you for your stupidity if they get stung! Sadly, it is the unsuspecting bystanders who always end up taking the brunt of it while the person who started it all runs for cover.
I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of religion. I also like to think I have a decent sense of humor but when you know that Muslims in general and fundamentalist Muslims in particular have no sense of humor that they are aware of with regards to Muhammad, you can’t say you are surprised that your actions caused a reaction.
22And what a huge waste of taxpayer funds to supply all the firepower. Geller should have to pay for that as well.
23Can’t some smart lawyer make a case for “Drawing a Mohammed Cartoon Contest” as inciting a riot? And charge her with something.
24Not “inciting a riot,” AliceBeth. This is more akin to Byron David Smith, the guy who left his house unlocked, parked his truck around the corner, and waited six hours in the dark in the basement for the two numb-nuts kids who robbed him earlier to try it again… and shot them. Dead.
This Muhammed “exhibit” was a hunting expedition, and the poor unarmed guy – apparently the ONLY unarmed guy in this op – was the goat tied to the stake.
I think Geller should be tried for murder.
25daChipster, in Canada inciting a crime is a crime. How goes it here in the lower 48?
26If I poke a stick into a hornets nest it’s not a news story when I get stung. Unless the reporter wants to focus on the fact that I was stupid enough to poke a hornets nest, and his/her readers might want to remember this fact should they ever hear my name mentioned in the future.
So why is much of the news coverage for this story focused on the hornets, and not on the idiot with the stick?
27Maggie, about the same. If you want to charge Geller with inciting the crimes the two dead guys committed, she could get 20 years for each, prolly served concurrently. (“induces or otherwise endeavors,” see below). However, I think she trolled for people like them, just so they could be killed, or otherwise held up as an confirmation bias for all the other h8r-cons. That’s murder 1.
18 U.S. Code § 373 – Solicitation to commit a crime of violence
a) Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half of the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the crime solicited, or both; or if the crime solicited is punishable by life imprisonment or death, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty years.
28@Sandridge
It would surprise me if the shooters actually turn out to have been armed with automatic rifles. Likely they were semi-automatic. de-milled AKs for example.
The wounded security guard is well above “mall cop”. He served previously in a sworn position in Rowlett and in another department before coming to Garland ISD PD. So far as I know no GISD PD officers are sworn. That is they are not armed. They function more like night watchmen, checking doors etc at ISD properties. If they find an open door likely they call Garland PD. I doubt he ever wears body armor.
29Sorry, Catbarf and others, but this is exactly what the First Amendment looks like. Disgusting or not, Geller’s sad exhibition is clearly protected speech. Police have a duty to protect the exercise of free speech. Look what happens when the Pope comes to town.
30Well, my little Abilene local news covered this story like it was a Muslim terrorist plot Surprised?
31@Micr,
Didn’t mean to imply anything about “automatic weapons”, although I think I read that somewhere. The spin on these things seems to try to push that, to make it sound worse I guess.
We all know hardly anyone ‘average’ has weaponry like that, only the LEO’s and really bad azzes do.
And Ted Nugent, who should have his FF licenses jerked ASAP, if our admin had any ‘nads, that is. Remember that bunch of Bundy brandishing ‘baggers in Nevada? Not as much as a parking ticket was given out.
I didn’t know the background of the GISD patrolman, just going by the Reuters article which referred to a “security guard”.
Like dC stated too, it looked like he was staked out there as bait?
I almost never look at ‘media’ (teevee/newpaper) websites, they are full of bad IP/HTML juju (Flash/Java/social disease…err…media, etc), IMO.
@PattiCakes,
32Surprised? Nope…never am any more.
I think she took a lesson out of the teachings of WWE and Vince McMohan…
The shootings were staged for publicity and the gunmen were surprised that bullets came out of the guns which were supposed to be firing blanks…
But dead men tell no tales….
Never underestimate the publicity seeking Right Wing Nut Jobs!
33OK, shooting people who are exercising their freedom of speech is a no no. But that pit viper Geller set up some cartoonists and cops for a possible disaster to prove her sicko point. There is a special circle in Hell below #9 that the Devil himself is arfraid of, and that’s where she will go.
34@Sandridge
35Sorry. I have a rare variety of scoliosis that reacts violently when the media terms something an “assault rifle” or an “automatic rifle”. I am too familiar with such weaponry and while shooting them is an adrenaline rush, it is also work. I also twisted off and cursed when a local Dallas “journalist” wrote how the Garland officer had killed the shooters with his “service revolver”. “Revolver”????????? Wow. The 1960s have called the Dallas News and want their antiques back.
I was appalled when I heard about the “draw Muhammed contest” at work yesterday. I believe in free speech, but I also believe in respect for others’ beliefs. It might be free speech to have the contest, but it was downright disrespectful to a major world religion. I don’t care whether you believe what they believe or think they are completely misguided, it is wrong to disrespect people like this.
The fact that two people were killed and one injured should be laid on the doorstep of the event organizer, in my humble opinion.
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