Okay, Stop With the Hitler
Learning absolutely diddle squat from the Hitler Festivities hosted by Sean Spicer, North Carolina Republican state representative Larry Pittman just compared Abraham Lincoln to Hitler.
No damn freekin’ kidding, y’all.
As a sophomore letterman on the Facebook Debating Society, Pittman dropped this jewel when a commenter reminded Pittman that gay marriage is now the law and that Pittman should “get over it,” instead of wasting time repeatedly trying to re-introduce it to ban it.
Pittman’s response: “And if Hitler had won, should the world just get over it? Lincoln was the same sort (of) tyrant, and personally responsible for the deaths of over 800,000 Americans in a war that was unnecessary and unconstitutional.”
By the way, Pittman is the pastor of Ridgecrest Presbyterian Church in Stanly County.
Hitler: everybody you disagree with is just like him.
What the hell is in the water down there? My late husband wanted to retire to NC. He had a lot of colleagues who headed for that state. Sometimes you gotta wonder . . . is someone else’s recommendation about anything really worthwhile?
1It’s the grocery sacks. BSA is the replacement for bisphenol A (BPA) in plastics. BSA is said to be more harmful than BPA. Apparently a number of politicians are out to prove that by huffing into their grocery sacks daily.
2Come on now you have got to be making this stuff up, right?
3Gee, I never realized that Abraham Lincoln personally started that war. What did he do? Pick up a musket and open fire on the good citizens of South Carolina?
I kinda thought it was the Confederate artillery that started it, firing on the Union garrison at Fort Sumter, beginning the war and leading to the killing of 800,000 Americans.
They must have some different kind of history down there in the Carolinas.
4I believe the Presbyterian church needs to have a little chat with him. He seems severely uneducated and pretty damn racist.
5What the heck is going on in the Presbyterian church in NC? Hopefully this fool is just an outlier. Every church has at least one.
6NOT the Presbyterian church I grew up in! These cretins and slimy boogers have perverted THE VERY WORD OF GOD!
Or so it seems.
7Lincoln was the same sort (of) tyrant (as Hitler)
Yes, Lincoln gave American residents their freedom, while Hitler took away freedom (and life) from German citizens.
Other than that, just the same.
8Hitler, gay marriage, the War of Northern Aggression and that damnyankee Lincoln– all stuff he doesn’t like and therefore all equally evil. I’m guessing his ancestors had a hard time getting over Emancipation too.
9charles phillips, indeed, perverted. Which is why any number of creeds deserve the sobriquet of Pervangelist. I left my tribe (Jewish) because too many conflated religion with Zionism, while others were way too silent about the obvious mistake.
10Ridgecrest Presbyterian Church in Locust, North Carolina, is NOT affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA).
11Stanly County, NC went for Strump 74% to 23.8% Clinton. that they should elect this RWNJ to Congress should then come as no surprise. apparently, the entire county is populated by brain-dead zombies.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/north-carolina/
12Time to make a donation in his name to the Whitman Walker Clinic.
13His congregation is affiliated with the Evangelical Presbyterian Church. They split off from the other Presbyterians some years ago.
14Giving Presbyterians a bad name. My late mother’s pastor and his family are Presbyterians and could not be nicer or more generous people. Such a difference when people actually *read* their Bible.
15Yes, slipstream, they do have “some kind of different history down there”. Rhea alluded to it. They are teaching The War of Northern Aggression instead of the Civil War.
16Good friends from Pennsylvania traveled To Tennessee to visit their son and his family. They took their grandsons to a park where a teacher was conducting a field trip with her class. They stopped before a statue of a Confederate hero, while she went on about the War of Northern Aggression. My friend’s husband teaches history and it was all she could do to hold him back from correcting this woman in no uncertain terms.
She was afraid the headlines would read: Northern Aggressor
Harasses Southern Teacher. This happened recently.
maryelle, that’s exactly why I won’t travel in the south. If they were being honest, they would call it The War of Southern Stupidity.
17Been thinking about it. This calls for a blood test and a UA.
18It has long puzzled me that WingNuts choose to celebrate wars they lost, as if that will somehow change what happened.
Sore losers are bad enough, but exultant losers are crazy.
19Translating from Suthin’ RightWingese code words, he’s simply saying the War of Northern Aggression never really ended, Lincoln was a mass-murdering tyrant, the Confederacy didn’t unconditionally surrender, and the war continues by other means (so far). A real ‘Man of the Cloth’, as long as it’s a klan robe.
20Lincoln and the North were far too lenient after the surrender in not thoroughly breaking the ‘plantation mentality’ and Southern ruling class; in allowing the ethos to persist, particularly in the educational system.
In my part of Texass, groups such as the “Sons of the Confederacy” have had a major upsurge in the last decades. Even within the people whose ancestors were German and Czech Freethinkers who had been persecuted, hunted down, and murdered by Texass Confederates for being true to the country they recently emigrated to. In my own county, and most nearby, the vote is of late, now 74%+ for the Rethugs, and they’ve been downright delirious over SOBOTUS (NYC Yankee though he is, MAGA-MajorAssholeGolfingAgain); and this R vote includes a significant percentage of ‘Hispanics’–.
The Cuban Hispanics and the Mexican Hispanics in the US are not on the same page.
21Yet another non Christian, ignorant, hate monger play acting. Why do people listen to these non human critters? Because they have dumbed down the average person to the level of mental midgets. Their schools don’t educate and their churches don’t have any morals. Good ole Pittman and his ilk need to be booted to the same small island where they can only harm themselves. Their level of ignorance about history is appalling. And BTW, as they hate everyone but fat white guys, let’s populate that island with only white men. Then sit back and enjoy the ensuing chaos.
22Pittman and his church, homophobes!
https://www.layman.org/north-carolina-congregation-finds-new-home-in-epc/
23These are the same folks who tell us to ‘just get over it’ that the Orange Nightmare is now the SCROTUS. I’m getting whiplash from their lack of logic.
24From Wiki: In February 2017, Pittman joined with Representatives Michael Speciale (R-Craven), and George Cleveland (R-Jacksonville) in proposing a constitutional amendment that would allow North Carolina voters to repeal Article I, Section 4 of the North Carolina Constitution. This article declares “This State shall ever remain a member of the American Union; the people thereof are part of the American nation,” and prohibits the state from seceding from the United States of America, and its inclusion in North Carolina’s 1868 constitution was a condition for being readmitted into the Union after the Civil War.
25Old Mayfly, (et al.)
26The ‘Pukes have a lot more (Texass) Mex-Am support than you seem to think. They have been waging a moderately successful propaganda effort for years (seemingly under-the-radar), and it has made progress. Whether it holds, who knows, SOBOTUS may finally screw that up too.
And I’ve watched it up close, as an Anglo living in both South, and Deep-deep South Texas; and I know lots of Mex-Ams and a few Cub-Ams.
It surprising how many have bought the bullchit.
One of my not-far neighbors is a famous Mex-Am PR-advertising honcho who has been helping elect Repukes nationally since St. Reagan’s era (own firm).
Even he couldn’t choke down tRump, he went on record as not going to vote for DJT, but for HRC. Probably lost biz.
And he probably voted in the same place I did, our county still went ~74% Dumbazz; and it’s a majority Hispanic/Mex-Am county now.
I’ve studied the TX SoS election results a little. Even those solid blue Dem Rio Grande Valley counties have been steadily getting higher ‘Puke vote counts, from 10-15% long ago to 35-40%+ now.
Like I’ve stated before, the g’damned Dem ‘leadership’ needs to wake TF up, and DO SOMETHING, quick…
@Charly Hoarse
20/20 hindsight I know, but I suspect now that President Lincoln’s decision to preserve the union of the United States in 1861 was the wrong one. He probably should have allowed them to go their own way, branding them traitors to the United States as he did so. Some times you increase the total by subtracting.
27BTW, if you haven’t read If the South Had Won the Civil War, you should add it to your to-be-read-sometime stack. Written in 1960-61 it proposes a series of historical events that the author says could have gone either way and translated to a victory by the Rebellion. In subsequent years, the United States and the new nation in the South go about their business including an amicable separation of Texas after it invades and occupies the Indian Territories, now Oklahoma. To me it reads deeply into the modern mindset @Sandridge@ describes above, “the War of Northern Aggression never really ended, Lincoln was a mass-murdering tyrant, the Confederacy didn’t unconditionally surrender, and the war continues by other means (so far).”
These people, not all of whom remain in the rebellious states, are scary. Their evangelical religious-ism is a thin disguise for white supremacy. And their adherents seem to be everywhere.
28I assume this gentleman never read or heard Lincoln’s first Inaugural Address, which is exceedingly conciliatory towards the South and ends with the words:
I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.
29As of 2013, the great and mighty congregation served by the good pastor numbered all of . . . 26.
Yawn.
30“There are human errors and even Jesus dropped the cross three times.” ~ said by drunken snacilbupeR candidate Brian McDowell (Reprobate-NJ) after being caught on video crudely propositioning a woman.
Give Brian 1/2 point for being somewhat honest about snacilbupeR ethics standards.
31Evidently representative Pittman has not gotten over the civil war. What a jerk!
32Yet this goofball is ostensibly in the same party as Lincoln. To paraphrase a cigarette ad, “You’ve regressed a long way, baby.”
33Thank you good Americans for remembering the United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A. that dates back to 1789 in the New World and can trace its roots to the Scotch-Irish immigrants going back to the seventeenth century.
The trouble began sometime in the 1960s with churches in the confederate states. The Presbyterian Church in America was founded in 1983 as a home for bigoted Christians that had a problem with the famously liberal Presbyterian church.
For an explanation, see this informative article, entitled, How to Tell the Difference Between the PCUSA and the PCA.
The Southern reactionaries who split in 1983 bear little resemblance to the proud tradition of the Presbyterian Church. I might add that while gradually becoming more conservative, most Presbyterian churches did not fell the need to abandon their traditions in the face of crazy ideas like ordaining gay ministers.
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