Oh For Pete’s Sake
Wait a minute. Wait a damn minute.
White nationalists protesting the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue in Charlottesville, Virginia, stormed two of the city’s parks on Saturday chanting Nazi slogans and brandishing torches.
You want me to take you seriously when you are mobbing-around carrying citronella tiki torches? Ain’t no flies on you, huh?
Idiots.
Here, next time tell them to carry the real confederate symbol.
They chanted “Blood and Soil” and “Russia Is Our Friend”.
We need a nazi-head-punching machine, stat.
1I was not going to comment but I thought I must. I do not know how the nazis came to mean the South. I wish they would keep they crazy Arian thoughts to themselves. I have mixed feeling about removing these statues, they were Americans and probably ( hopefuly) would have wished there was no war. Let us remember the South had brave soldiers who fought for what they believed was a way of life being threatened. Yes it was wrong. Remember I am a Northerner who’s relatives fought and died in the Civil War, please let’s stop fighting. There are more important thing current than this.
2Gives new meaning to lighters at a rock concert.
3Now appearing with their one and only hit, The Racists!
Nothin’ says cray cray like all hands to the store bought torches to defend the pigeon guano caked replica of the man who lost their war. These buffoons were doomed to joblessness the day the scale was invented to weigh jelly beans into a bag.
4They should have been chanting:
Sherman, Sherman!
Burnin’, burnin’!
That’s more what that bunch of goobers with torches looks like to me.
5@Maymoon
RE: “Let us remember the South had brave soldiers who fought for what they believed was a way of life being threatened.”
So did Imperial Japan. So did the Third Reich. When you are unable to reason the difference between right and wrong, fighting for a way of life is a pretty low bar. Almost in the “might makes right” neighborhood.
Think about it for a minute. OK. The rebelled against the Constitution. Officers like Lee who were commissioned did so at their own peril. Brave, perhaps. Traitors certainly. They shouldn’t have gotten a statue. They should have gotten the end of a rop.
6I have an extremely uncooperative keyboard this morning, as well as the usual auto-correct bedevilment.
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@Maymoon
RE: “Let us remember the South had brave soldiers who fought for what they believed was a way of life being threatened.”
So did Imperial Japan. So did the Third Reich. When you are unable to reason the difference between right and wrong, fighting for a way of life is a pretty low bar. Almost in the “might makes right” neighborhood.
Think about it for a minute. OK. They rebelled against the Constitution. Officers like Lee who were commissioned did so at their own peril. Brave, perhaps. Traitors to the Constitution certainly. They shouldn’t have gotten a statue. They should have gotten the end of a rope.
7This is just another case of “they are who we thought they were”. Yep, the marchers are neo-nazis but they’re also avowed white supremacists, and Lee and Jackson, as war leaders of a “country” that explicitly claimed white supremacy as its foundation and hoped to establish an empire based on slavery stretching across South America, were their guys.
8Robert E. Lee was a slaveholder who violated his oath to the Union, waged armed rebellion against the United States and kidnapped free blacks so that they could be sold into slavery in the Confederacy, when he invaded Pennsylvania. (I understand that he was very brave, and very courteous to whites.) Slavery was the Confederacy’s way of life.
What msb said.
9I’m not picking a fight with anyone here, but Lee would be horrified at this. I am positive he never wanted Confederate statues erected in the first place; when the war was over he made a point of telling everyone who would listen to let it go and get on with the business of living as U.S. citizens once again. As president of Washington College he repeatedly expelled students for overt racism.
I think a lot of people were not ready – maybe were never ready – to hear that from someone they had come to worship; I think, sadly, that a lot of people were probably just a little bit relieved when he died five years after the war ended, so they could continue to worship their version of a very complex man.
10Annabelle Lee, they worship Lee like they worship Jesus: by not paying any attention to what he actually said, but assuming that he would agree with what they believe, and being nasty to people who disagree with them or try to point out their idol’s actual (recorded) words.
As for the photo, all that mob needs is hoods and a big cross.
11Bobby Lee and Benny Arnold to peas in a pod. May be?
12Where oh where are the monuments and High Schools commemorating Benedict Arnold?
There is a monument to Benedict Arnold, although his name doesn’t appear on it. It is located in Saratoga National Park. It honors what he did before he turned traitor – with a boot, to commemorate his wound received in battle. You can find it by googling Benedict Arnold’s boot. I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to put a link here.
Not quite the same thing, though, is it? And no schools are named for him, AFAiK.
13So they are singing Russia is Our Friend!! I say round the fools up put them on a ship and send them to Russia. I think they would change their tune !!
14Today on the Insight channel of Sirius radio John Fugelsang devoted a portion of his show to this topic. One of his callers had a good suggestion for some of the monuments. Move them to Civil War battle sites to aid in historical interpretation by the park service. (I mean true history, not the lying NaziKKK shinola.) That sounds like a good way to make use of public art. Or use them to rebuild reefs.
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