Madame President-Elect Open Thread

November 08, 2016 By: Primo Encarnación Category: Uncategorized

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  1. Mencken was right. It seems that Hate and Ignorance is winning.

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  2. elise from CA says:

    Well, I think the Kochroaches and their ilk will keep Donnie on a tight leash. Just like Chimpy/Darth, Drumpf will be the media-target figurehead puppet while the real work will be done behind the scenes by the VP. Pence is a Koch puppet, tool of the oligarchy, and radical Xtianist crackpot. Just amazing that this guy goes from being a one-term failed governor whose political career was over to, now, the de facto president of the U.S.

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  3. That Other Jean says:

    RA, I’d give credit to P.T. Barnum: “There’s a sucker born every minute.” I wonder what happens when Trump can’t keep his “promises” and things get worse, instead of better. Maybe the Dems will take Congress in 2018, if the country’s still standing.

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  4. I think I want to puke…

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  5. It looks like Putin, Snowden, Comey and the ones elise mentioned succeeded. Also hate, misogyny, racism, etc.

    I need to write a letter of apology to the rest of the free world, Canada, Europe, etc. I was embarrassed by Shrub’s terms. This is so much worse. I feel ashamed.

    The Canadian immigration site has crashed. Wall Street and Nasdaq have shut down. Jesus f**cking Christ. I’m going to take a benadryl and cry myself to sleep.

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  6. Primo Encarnación says:

    Courage, all. Maintain hope. Even if we lose. Especially if we lose.

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  7. elise from CA says:

    Even when things get worse for the working class Drumpf supporters (and they have no idea what’s in store), the forces behind him will be able to spin and manipulate the “poorly educated” to displace their anger elsewhere.

    Hell, the lot of the working and middle classes has been on an obvious downward trajectory ever since Ronnie Raygun got in and began shafting them, and yet they keep voting for these predators. Clearly the propaganda has been and continues working, which means that we can expect more racism and demonization of convenient targets to keep the rubes in line.

    I weep for this country.

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  8. slipstream says:

    Alaska and Arizona will go to Trump.

    HRC needs a clean sweep of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, and Maine to win.

    Aaaarrrgggghhh.

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  9. It’s only the beginning. Newt gingerich sec’y of state. Some REAL warhawk at defense. Lots of Supreme Court appts. A willing, spineless congressional majority. It goes on and on and did I mention the worst fucking one of all, President Donald Trump, a giant, raw, unrestrained, hyper developed Orange Id, surrounded and encouraged by sycophants, as the second most powerful man on the planet (putin being first). We and millions to follow are so fucked. Buy Gold. Then please serve me a double helping of curare, with a Jonestown Kool Aid chaser. If by some chance I don’t die immediately, please, just fucking shoot me before he sets foot in the white house, appoints a supreme court judge, and gives newt the keys to the govt.
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  10. In case anyone wants to get more depressed…. This gang will certainly halt or reverse any action on climate change, which will have repercussions for… let’s be optimistic and say 100,000 years. Actually it will be more like millions of years, especially when you factor in the extinctions.

    Reagan was bad, Baby Bush was worse. This is unspeakable.

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  11. Rhea: not only rolling back clean energy, but clean water, clean air, food safety, regulations on corrupt business practices, and on and on. With the Red Party in charge of everything, how can we stop them?

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  12. Willkommen im Vierten Reich…
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    (I’m recycling my old sig line now… :[ )

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  13. Aghast Independent says:

    Lets get real here, folks. There are a lot of disaffected people out there, and they are voting for the “outsider.” That was Trump on the Red side, and Bernie on the Blue. Reds chose Trump, Blues did NOT choose Bernie. Tonight is the result, plain and simple. I love the Clintons – but the country is tired of Dynasty at this point, either Bush or Clinton.
    The way forward for progressives MUST take this into account in the future. So let’s learn from our mistakes, roll up our sleeves, and take it back!!

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  14. Nearly everyone lives near and interstate. Come inauguration day, I suggest we each gathere 50 or more friends, post some warning sign for safety of motorists, and block the interstates for an hour. Go to jail. Repeat as necessary. Peaceful, non-violent protest. WE sacrifice, we put ourselves on the line. I’m a white male in a liberal enclave, I’m hardly going to feel what this man does, but so many others will take the brunt of his xenophobia, racism and meglomania. Time to do something

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  15. Wally,
    I pretty much agreed with your previous comment, but your line (below) is just effen nuts.
    YOU ARE going to feel a possible Trump White House in so many critical ways that you apparently cannot see…you truly must have been in a bubble there in your enclave not to realize what these people are capable of (said as a Texas resident).

    “I’m a white male in a liberal enclave, I’m hardly going to feel what this man does”
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  16. Primo Encarnación says:

    The Framers thought of this, it’s called Article II, Section 1
    Do enough electors have enough patriotism?

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  17. Wally, I better qualify, my comment agreement above referred to your comment #9 above about a DT admin, cabinet, etc.
    Not your ‘sit down on the interstate’ one.
    That kind of namby-pamby lib-bull would just get you made into 4×4 pickup bumper grease by the likes of that wormy dude pictured in JJ’s post about “The New Old Republican Party”. In any US state now, and little chance that any “justice” would be forthcoming.

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  18. Yes, Wally, you with your lily white skin and your oh-so-liberal enclave aren’t going to escape the horrible consequences of this election. Don’t kid yourself. We’re all going to pay for this, and it’s going to be ugly.

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  19. Well, JJ’s Fort Bend results are coming unstuck off mostly just the EV’s. Returns are bumping up as results are tallied, looks like HRC is actually gaining a bit, there anyway. He’s still up about 9% TX statewide, but I’m sure those hordes of (R)ural counties won’t be in for a while.
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    RACE NAME PARTY EARLY VOTES PERCENT TOTAL VOTES PERCENT
    President/Vice-President
    Donald J. Trump / Mike Pence REP 96,307 45.79% 117,212 44.77%
    Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine DEM 106,827 50.80% 134,475 51.37%
    Gary Johnson / William Weld LIB 4,880 2.32% 6,898 2.63%
    Jill Stein / Ajamu Baraka GRN 1,196 0.56% 1,782 0.68%

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  20. I’m old. I’m tired. Participating in this election took all my mental and emotional energy. I foresee it sucking to grow older in majority Republican America. I’m too old to see the demographic flip. I still believe such a flip will come but I think I won’t live to see it nor enjoy its benefits.

    I intended to throw the dice and retire in January. If I can make that happen in December now I will.

    I had a short list of states to which my wife and I might move. The list got shorter by a bunch tonight.

    My wife and I each grew up in different parts of Texas around dirt-poor proudly ignorant KKK members. I fought their viewpoint, arrested them as a peace officer, and believed I had somehow contributed to their defeat. Clearly they are not defeated and tonight elected one of their own as President.

    I’m done.

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  21. Someone said, maybe here, that she didn’t want to live in a country run by Trump, but more than that– she didn’t want to live in a country that would elect Trump. Clinton said we needed to decide what kind of America we live in. We, and all those happy pilgrims at Susan B. Anthony’s gravesite today, many with their children…. We live in a darker, uglier world than we thought we had.

    But the sun will rise in a few hours.

    Don’t mourn– organize.

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  22. JAKvirginia says:

    Micr: I hear you. It’s 2:40 am in DC and I struggle to write this with tears in my eyes. Trump needs only MI or PA to be president. I can’t believe I just typed that. My country died tonight. Everything I was taught and believed evaporated. I, too, am done.

    I suppose I’ll just have to learn to duck and cover. I believe that may come in handy. I love you all at this Salon. Especially you Susan. You are the best. May God bless and keep you well. See ya later. I need to go hug a puppy.

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  23. Old Quaker says:

    Koch brothers won. They will, I’m betting, vet who will get which jobs. Trump has no organization and the Koch’s are glad to help. I’m saddened on a scale I never thought possible. Guillani as atty general will be awful.
    Our national nightmare has begun.

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  24. Lunargent says:

    A little dramatic, but fitting for the mood, methinks.

    https://youtu.be/7SfQ1z-7Pwk

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  25. two crows says:

    Months ago, Trump called Kasich and asked him to drop by. He was looking to pick his vice president.

    Manafort or whoever was Trump’s manager at the time, told Kasich that, if he accepted the job, he would be put in charge of domestic and foreign affairs. When Kasich noted that that pretty much summed up the office of the president and wanted to know what Trump would be doing while he attended to those, the manager said, apparently without a trace of irony, “Making America Great Again.”

    Kasich turned down the offer. As we all know, Pence didn’t.

    The good news, about Trump, was the fact that he doesn’t have a clue as to how to govern. Unfortunately, Pence does.

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  26. JAKvirginia, I too feel my country died tonight. The Grand Experiment appears to be over. I can’t see how any Democrat left in the House and Senate can mitigate any of the coming damage. How can they/we combat the tsunami of Hate (capitalized on purpose)? I could use some words of hope about now but I’m not finding any.

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  27. I said a lot no time ago that we would have a black man president before a woman, and I was surprised when the first happened in my lifetime. Sexism stronger than racism. And now, demagoguery, which is never far away, is present and on top.

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  28. I am very sad and disgusted.
    What kind of country will we be leaving for our children and grandchildren?

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  29. Lunargent says:

    Hillary said of America: “We are great, because we are good.”

    Is that just a delusion? This loss and dread is like a physical pain.

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  30. Ralph Wiggam says:

    I’m reminded of an old joke.

    A man comes home from work to find his wife in bed with another man. The man promptly runs to the night stand and pulls out his gun and points it at his own head. The man in bed starts laughing and says “Don’t do that, it’s not worth it!” The man with the gun says “Don’t laugh sucker, you’re next.”

    Now the USA has pointed our own gun at our own head with the whole world laughing at us. And Trump says “Don’t laugh sucker, you’re next.”

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  31. Well, the sun is coming up…

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  32. God, grant me the serenity…

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  33. Steve The Returned says:

    “WOLVERINES!”

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  34. charles r. phillips says:

    Suck it up, people! Did you think it would be easy, turning back the tide of The Donald and his ilk?

    If you think today is a bad day, hang around until the inauguration. That will be EPIC.

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  35. This country just lost every friend it ever had.

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  36. e platypus onion says:

    Good to know Drumpf can tell the truth on at least one occasion. This election was rigged. I only hope Dems can prove it. Has HRC been hauled away to Guantanamo yet?

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  37. Marcia in CO says:

    I woke up at 3:30 and could not go back to sleep … turned on the TV to the nightmare of Trump as the President!!
    I have cried and I feel like I should vomit or have unchecked diarrhea or both … at the same time ’cause this all feels like a horrible virus that is not curable!!!
    I am beyond disgusted!! :'(

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  38. Aggieland Liz says:

    Well. It appears the world did not end despite all the portents. And I am left singing a Clash song to myself and wondering what in hell I’m going to do now? I don’t want to see my family, I don’t want to see my clients, and the Go Canada website has cratered, presumably under the pressure of the panic to the south. But I am thinking I should go…

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  39. AliceBeth says:

    The poorly educated have elected a President.
    The bigots, the KKK, the Nazi party are all rejoicing. They think this guy has a clue what to do.

    I said elsewhere, if you were a little kid who practiced hiding under your desk at school during the Cuban Missile Crisis, you know how I feel today.

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  40. e platypus onion says:

    Did Dems gain anything last night? I can’t see where they did except Illinois senate seat.

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  41. e platypus onion says:

    Now it is time for years of Dem obstruction in Congress. Payback-Karma-Kismet is a …….. 🙂

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  42. AliceBeth, I was a kid hiding under my desk long before the Cuban Missile Crisis. I was hiding from Russian bombs. And yes, I know exactly how you feel today. Wherever Khrushchev is, he’s laughing right along with Cohn.

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  43. I am stealing some stuff from other websites this morning as I am too numb to really think.

    Someone over at Salon said (to paraphrase): America will not get the government it needs but the one it deserves.

    At another site: Don’t move to Canada, move to a swing state.

    I plan on staying in TX as Texas is already what the rest of the US is about to become. I plan on staying and fighting however I can on behalf of my grandkids. I probably don’t have that much time left on the planet but I don’t plan on watching it go to heck from some far off ‘safe’ place.

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  44. AliceBeth says:

    My husband wants hearings run by Democrats, lots of hearings.

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  45. Aggieland Liz says:

    It wasn’t rigged it was gerrymandered. Welcome to Tom Delay’s America. And now it will be harder than ever to undo, because the Rs will consolidate their power even further. We are talking decades now. I guess my failure was in thinking that lack of signs was lack of support; they were just ashamed to own it, but they won’t be ashamed now. What am I going to do for my friends that are AA and Latino? I suspect I can’t do anything at all, because the white supremacists won. I suppose I can just wait for the end of the world; either the Toddler in Chief will blow us all to smithereens or the global catastrophe that unchecked climate change will bring will drown and starve us out. Optimism died this morning when the news became clear. I wonder what Jim Wright will have to say? I’m taking up French and hoping my daughter will join me, her company has a Toronto office. Maybe I can at least rescue her and her family from this cesspit before I drown.

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  46. e platypus onion says:

    Wonkette says it rather succinctly should anyone want a smidgen of NSFW or any other place fortitude.

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  47. Congrats, dnc. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Thanks to the russians and wikileaks, we saw how wasserman schulz and the dinc acted like the rnc in doing whatever it took to defeat Bernie and to push the old guard insiders of the clintons. Another eg. – Fl rep Grayson, a dem who was a thorn to the repubs got pushed out or the senate race by the dnc insiders for millionaire repub murphey masquerading as a dem only to lose to rubio.
    This is not about the first woman prez; Warren would have been a great candidate. And yes obama is part of the old guard that created this CF.
    IMO, only a thorough cleansing of the dinc and replacing the insiders with true dems will there be any reasonable chance to take back power from these repubs esp since we can expect them to, in effect, gerrymander the whole gov’t while in power.
    I’m old enough that this ain’t likely to happen within my remaining days. My kids and grandkids, etc., will be living with the effects of this election probably during their lifetimes.
    Time for Pogo; ‘We have met the enemy and he’s us!”

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  48. Why am I surprised, when the FBI, Russia, Adelson, American bigots and misogynists and other dark entities all conspired to defeat not just Hillary, but intelligent progress in America.
    We now have a pervert pig in charge, but the tea party will destroy all the progress made over the last 8 years, there will be no regulation on big banks and Wall Street and the environment will go to hell. Oh, and we can kiss Medicare, Medicaid, Affordable Care and Social Security goodbye. And that’s only for starters. There has to be a way to get him out of there in 4 years. Let’s get started.

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  49. e platypus onion says:

    Come clean, JJ. This is really a bad episode of Dallas and we will all wake up to Madam Preznit, right?

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  50. Aggieland Liz says:

    Well epo, that’s succinct all right, and it about sums up my feelings exactly!

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