I Think He’s Talking About You
I want y’all to meet megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress. He is powerful upset about all this gay stuff in the news. Powerful upset.
Jeffress warned that American Christianity is finding itself at the mercy of “godless, immoral infidels who hate God.”
Appearing alongside Family Research Council president Tony Perkins and pastor Rafael Cruz, the father of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Jeffress likened Christian pastors who allow LGBT rights to move forward in this country to “German pastors that allowed for the Holocaust.”
Furthermore, he predicted that once all of the anti-LGBT legislation has been struck down, pastors like himself will be imprisoned under new laws against “hate speech.”
One can only hope.
You can go to You Tube and run Jeffress name. He’s pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas. He will also set your gaydar on nuclear weapons grade. As my friend Kary says, “Darlin’, he’s as gay as Ikea on Superbowl Sunday.”
You gotta admit that it’s scientifically important to see that much hate fit in such a short little body.
It is sort of funny, that these people call themselves chrisitans…when all they do is hate…
1Another rabid right-winger, predicting his own imprisonment? Maybe he and Ted Nugent could be cellmates—they could sell tickets to something like that (hell, I’d buy one)……
2I agree with @Bob.
When did it become “Christian” to preach and practice discrimination…. against one person or a group of people?
Most “REAL CHRISTIANS” I know preach and practice “Love Thy Neighbor”.
Not just the “straight” ones, or the “caucasian” ones, or the same gender ones…. (they don’t discriminate).
Memo to all the RW Religious Nutcases: DISCRIMINATION is NOT A CHRISTIAN VALUE.
JMHO.
3Who knew? Hate comes with a strategy. Losing in the courts, the haters are already onto their next move, gay denialism.
http://gaylife.about.com/b/2014/02/26/what-is-gay-denialism.htm?nl=1
WTG! It’s like hopscotch with the haters. They’re back to that ‘choice’ option. Thought that was debunked the day I was asked when I decided to be straight. Bingo! Instant puberty. Yeah. I remember now, it was a day, not a process. [/snark]
4Despite lacking much in the way of gaydar, it does appear to me that Jeffress may be a little light in his tennis shoes, light enough that he has to carry a big rock to keep from floating away. With that thought in mind, SteveTheReturned, would you really want to watch what went on in that prison cell? Imagine just occupying the cell next to Ted and Bobby, listening to the moaning, sighing, screaming, whatever.
5Grifters claim to be against something they themselves are to flame the haters into giving them money. There are many examples of this in the RWNJ community. The most famous among them is Ted Haggard. Wow, that one hit out of the park.
6OK, Uncle Dave, I’m not giving up on the ticketed event fantasy, but you have given me pause for thought…..;)
7Looks alot like that short little gay guy from Will and Grace, no? Hmmmm….
8Ah, Christianity. So much for evangelism and inclusion.
9I’ve been expecting spontaneous human combustion as the dominoes fall and the outrage is turned up to 11. What fun!
10“The lady doth protest too much.” (Hamlet, Shakespeare, attn: Rand Paul)
11This is classic projection of his own self-loathing onto the gays and, of course, we who would champion their cause for equal rights.
And, LucyTooners, you are right on the money with your assessment of the hate dollars pouring in.
Hate the sin, but really, really love the sinner, pastor? I just want to be there when this guy walks into a restaurant, and someone refuses to seat him because he is gay.
Speaking of: they claim to be wrapped in the First Amendment and drenched in separation of church and statiness, with a side of freedom fries. But what if the gay person you are refusing service to refuses to leave? Who are you going to turn to to ensure your “religious freedom?”
Who you gonna call? Gay-busters?
No, you’re going to dial 911, and ask the armed representative of the government to come and take this person away.
Anti-LGBT legislation actually co-opts government into enforcing your religious beliefs, at the expense of someone else’s. You may as well go around and paint “God” onto all the police cruisers after “To protect and serve…”
I think they don’t know the difference between an Amendment and a Commandment.
12First Baptist owns an enormous amount of real estate in downtown Dallas…all of it tax free! And their new church; if you didn’t know better, you’d think it was a casino. There’s some sort of message there, I think.
13Damn! That tax exemption thing has soooooo got to go!
14Maggie, damn right it does! Appraise the Lord!
15Some chutzpah talking about Nazis when he’d be down with the SS goons putting pink triangles on people.
16Why does this guy remind me of Miss Lindsey?
17He used the word “infidel,” and he has no idea why that is off-the-charts ironic. What a poor excuse for a human being.
18I give it about 6 months before he’s caught with a “wide stance” in some airport restroom, or shows up in pictures taken at a leather bar.
19Kate — Amen! I love that. My new slogan is going to be Appraise the Lord!
20He’s going to Hell for that “comb-over” alone…
21If you are godless, how can you hate God? You would have to believe in him, wouldn’t you? Anyway, I despise the Tooth Fairy!
22daChipster: Some of this kind argue that the Constitution didn’t use the actual phrase “separation of church and state” so it’s unConstitutional to deny them the right to make their church rules the law of the land. I suspect Jeffress of being that kind, but I’m not about to read all his rants to find out. Still, the anti-separationists are usually the ones who insist that to have religious freedom, they have to deny freedom to someone else.
This guy is talkin’ at us, yeah. The church where I sing, St. David’s Episcopal in downtown Austin, is the first in our diocese to perform commitment ceremonies for gay couples. There’s an active GLBT support group in the church. The theological emphasis is on love and service.
On tax-free church property: When (as now) some churches are taking up a lot of the slack caused by government benefits cutbacks…they are able to do that only because their church property isn’t taxed. If you’re going to tax church property, then insist that the money recovered in property taxes is used ONLY for the charities that church was providing. Personally I’d argue that a religious institution claiming a tax break should reach a minimum standard of charitable work–percentage of their income.
In many cities, it’s the downtown mainstream churches that do most of the giving and caring–and downtown properties in some cities have enormous value to developers…there’s no way they can survive where most needed without a tax break. St. David’s lists a few (not all) of its opportunities for service on its website: http://www.stdave.org/grow-deeper/community-outreach/ They’ve also done outreach in New Orleans (a youth group has gone there every year since Katrina to help rebuild destroyed neighborhoods) and Central America.
St. Mark’s in San Antonio, when I was there in the 1970s, had a very active urban ministry program (and helped me find help for a neighborhood teen being sexually abused in her home.) The church where I’m actually a member (St. Matthew’s in Austin) also provides services to the homeless, does a Habitat build every year, etc.
But the churches doing the most work–while they talk about it in the church–are not the loudest voices you hear out in the world. Until–if ever–we have a government committed to, as the Constitution’s preamble says, “the general welfare” of the population, it’s my opinion that churches who are actually performing real community service should get the tax break. Those who are not, and/or are preaching hatred and dissension, should not.
23Yes, Elizabeth, there are good Christians. Then there are the masquerading ‘churches’ that should be investigated by the FBI and prosecuted under RICCO. The hate filled Westboro comes to mind. The gray area would be the Catholics. Most of them are good Christians, but what about those members who harbor sex offenders? To be fair, the same question applies to other denominations, too.
It is a quandary for the USDoJ, imagine how difficult a balance it is for local police departments. It really gohmerts, when religious criminals hide behind the Constitution, and then throw flames at our freedoms as was done in AZ. Freedom to discriminate, however did I miss that gem in the Constitution? Oh that’s right, it isn’t there.
That small band of religious wrong have done a good job of pitting the good Christians against the good secularists. Perhaps it will take both factions of good to weed out the the cults, crazies and bigots.
A good start would be voting out the Tea Beggers from elected offices.
24PKM — I’ll second that.
25Lavender inclinations, bless his heart.
26Rubymay, let’s start with turning Texas BLUE! In with Maxey Scherr, Wendy Davis and Leticia Van de Putte. Out with Loopy Louie, Ted the ineligible, Crony Cornyn and every gohmert crazy, lying pile of Stockyard Steve.
On to Kansas, Kentucky and wherever the gohmerts have been elected. Wake up, Kentucky, you have Mitch and Rand Paul. Time for you to clean your senate slate.
Sorry Florida, there are so many hours in a day. But Marco Rubio? Please keep him out of the west where we have a drought and send him upriver to suck up the floods. But to the US Senate? Please, no.
27I’d like to have a rule that anyone who compares something to the Holocaust, unless it involves the death of at least a few million people, has to pay their own way to Washington DC to tour the Holocaust Museum, so they can see that there’s a difference. Paying their own way to anything on a short list of equivalent educational sites would suffice also.
Gohmert.
28Most of the churches I know of personally do a multitude of useful and caring works at no or minimal charge. Sure, there are crooks who pose as ministers and folks who use churches only for their business connections, but that doesn’t make all the churches/synagogues/mosques bad. I do get tired of all the Christian (or lots of other groups) bashing and name-calling which sounds suspiciously like what we did to the helpless and handicapped when we were children. Are we using the anonymity of being on the internet like the KKK used their white robes? I know I get carried away some time.
29Too late dude. I’m already agnostic. I don’t want to join a religion that discriminates against others and worships a God that is all cool with slavery and tells sacrificing their first born children if they aren’t male. And if anybody says a word about me going to H-E-double hockeysticks, I’ll beat them with said hockeysticks. I’ve been told I’m going there too many times.
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