I Dunno. Indebted for What?

April 15, 2015 By: Juanita Jean Herownself Category: Uncategorized

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  1. Jean Kuhn says:

    Forever indebted? Maybe this is some kind of joke? Are they indebted to John Wilkes Booth? Another example of my favorite saying “Ya just can’t make this stuff up”.

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  2. Annabelle Lee says:

    It’s amazing to me that Republicans want to claim the man who extended executive privilege, suspended habeas corpus, and absolutely denied that states’ rights trumped federal.

    Sure, guys. If you want to lionize the very symbol of a strong central government, go for it. We can actually agree on something.

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  3. Corinne Sabo says:

    For his life or his assassination?

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  4. maryelle says:

    Those guys could barely squeeze out one positive word to describe former President Abraham Lincoln. Mighty hard for the racist party of obstructionists to praise the great leader who saved our country from being torn apart. Might be because they’re still tryin’.

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  5. daChipster says:

    150 years ago, a President from Illinois was reviled as a tyrant, as an ape, as inexperienced and as illegitimate, by the monied defenders of the status quo, by their ignorant and illiterate lackeys and by their so-called “men of God” who manufactured justification for their sins against their fellow men from the Bible.

    Lincoln called it “wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces” and put an end to it. So a soft, white, effete young man with a gun put an end to his life.

    150 years later, not much has changed.

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  6. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    If George T. Sherman hadn’t been such a poor military strategist, he should have wiped out their incestuous gene pool.

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  7. Old Mayfly says:

    William T. Sherman, I think. His men liked him and called him “Uncle Billy.”

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  8. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    Old Mayfly, you’re correct thanks, William. Was thinking the other military disaster, George aka Dubya. George or William T., two men who history has proven “mission accomplished” means a job half-a$$ed done.

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  9. daChipster says:

    Sherman T. Potter? LOL.

    And “Cump” Sherman, as his family called him, was the best military mind the North had. He foresaw the size and scope of the war early on, he Americanized the concept of total war, he daringly cut loose from his line of supply for his March to the Sea, and when all was said and done he offered humane terms as Lincoln had urged him and Grant to do when he told them to “let ’em up easy” only to be overruled and countermanded after Lincoln’s death.

    If there’s one name that Confediots revile to this day over those of Lincoln and Grant, it’s William Tecumseh Sherman.

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  10. Old Mayfly says:

    Polite Kool Marxist, we remember General Sherman’s name pretty well around these parts.

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  11. daChipster: re: “one name that Confediots revile to this day”

    It’s cause certain deep South dwellers got no sense of reality and haven’t since well before the 1860s. The line attributed to Isoroku Yamamoto, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.” plays just as well in 1861 as 1941.

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  12. Old Mayfly says:

    yes, daChipster. Gen. Sherman was a good general in every way. He saw his job as winning and therefore ending, the war.

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  13. Old Mayfly says:

    Micr, as a Southerner myself I totally agree.

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  14. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    daChipster, old “T” is lucky he’s remembered for that March to the Sea. His earlier exploits on the field, especially out west were more Dubya and Custer than most.

    “Let ’em up easy” … so the south shall rise again to create the current level of Confederate thinking. Did my time in the military with a few Confederate officers; too many like that hair-brained Tehran Tommy Cotton. That boy needs to be short listed to a VA facility.

    President Lincoln was a decent man. Can’t blame him for underestimating the st00pid. Can understand why he felt those rebels would realize that they had been defeated. Who could have known that ‘surrender’ was such a hard concept to grasp?

    Every time one of those yahoos waives the Confederate flag in this century, we need to snatch it out of their paws and replace it with their real flag, the white flag of surrender.

    But there’s hope. President Clinton was from Arkansas, President Carter from Georgia. Best thing Texas could do is send us a President Castro. Might forgive you for Dubya, if you did.

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  15. Old Mayfly says:

    Dubya was a Texan in the same sense that he was a “rancher” and that his “clearing brush” was actually work. Scared to death of horses and now living in an ultra-rich Texas suburb that could be anywhere.

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  16. Appositive. Punctuation, please.

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  17. e platypus onion says:

    Don’t ask wingnuts. If they knew anything at all they would rilly be dangerous.

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  18. e platypus onion says:

    PKM-the difference,you see,is Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and Jimmy was a nukular scientist while dubya was a dumbass,just like Poppy. U of Texas Law School wouldn’t admit dumbass dubya because of poor grades so he ended up at Yale and Harvard because of white privilege affirmative action-Daddy as an Alumnuts who pulled enough strings to get Junior in the door. Of course,dd denies it.

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  19. e platypus onion says:

    They named a lawnmower engine after William Tecumseh.Maybe it was an Indian chief of the same T name.

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  20. Old Fart says:

    Mixed interpretations aside, if Andrew Johnson had been limited to VP, then the terrors of reconstruction might’ve been decreased. We can never know otherwise, but Lincoln’s policy of amnesty combined with suppression of the reelection of successionist politicians following the war might have helped to change things from the top down.

    With regards to Sherman and his march to the sea, it is important to note that the infamous scorched earth policy was mostly limited to SC due to SC starting the war in the first place.

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  21. Old Fart says:

    E platypus, I am not so sure Bush 41 is as dull as you think. Given his time at the CIA, and the UN, as well as being a successful businessman, I think there is some there there. That and his being an honest to God combat pilot…

    Besides, he came up with the term “Voodoo economics” for St. Ronnie’s economic water sports.

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  22. He was a Republican. They are Republicans. This is the best they can do? Sheeezzz!

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  23. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    e platypus onion, Dubya was very Reaganesque; equally as comatose and st00pid. Laura even looks like Nancy.

    It’s no wonder Republicans hate liberals. We have all the best women.

    Have heard it said that President Eisenhower was the last decent Republican president. Historically, I wonder if Mary Todd Lincoln was the last good Republican woman.

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  24. e platypus onion says:

    Old Fart-it has always struck me as passing strange that a Bush gets rescued at sea and videotaped while others perished.

    As CIA director he played sugardaddy to a number of the worst dictators this side of the Atlantic,including his good friend Manuel Noriega whom he finally turned against. He has blood all over his hands. Personally,I can’t hold him in high esteem. No offense to you.

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  25. Wa Skeptic says:

    I think the General officer that had Lincoln practically eating his hat was Meade; he and his coterie were worthless! Most of the big battles took place within a two-day ride of Washington, DC, and if it weren’t for the fact that supplies were so limited and manpower so decimated, the CSA would have been hoisting the Battle Flag over DC the first year.
    Thank god for Grant, Sherman, and the Army of the Potomac.
    It certainly would have been better for our entire country if Booth hadn’t been such a good shot.

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  26. I have no doubt they meant it just like they wrote it.

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  27. e platypus onion says:

    More iowans enlisted and were killed in the Civil War than from any other state. I was not one of them/

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  28. Sanborne Addison says:

    E platypus, my great uncle from Dubuque lied about his age and went into the Union army when he was fourteen. Right off, he wound up in Andersonville Prison. Somehow, he lived to tell about it.

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  29. Sanborne Addison says:

    There is no doubt in my mind that the current Republican Party not only feels indebted to John Wilkes Booth, but is searching for their very own.

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  30. Sanborne, I thought I was the only one with that creepy feeling!

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  31. We have to remember that while in those Glory Years of the Regressive Party, yes, Lincoln freed the slaves and Democrats supported slavery, and later segregation…

    It all changed in 1968 with Richard Nixon’s Southern Strategy…

    The Republican Party in its quest to obtain the southern vote embraced racism and segregation and in a sense there was an inversion of the membership of the Democrat & Republican Parties…

    We need to remind them of this bed they made and their choice to lay in it. They need to stand tall and proclaim their mission of hate…

    It is all theirs and their glory days are long gone…

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  32. e platypus onion says:

    Wingnuts like to claim they were for civil rights bill and Dems were againt it,but if you check out the actual vote tallies,I believe you will find more Dems than wingnuts voted for it. MLK was a Republican back in the day when Republican was something to be proud of.

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  33. daChipster says:

    The dichotomy is not Democratic or Republic; it’s liberal and conservative.

    Handsome is as handsome does.

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  34. e platypus onion says:

    Dichotomy-isn’t that the procedure Michele Bachmann’s husband performs to pray lesbians straight?

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  35. maryelle says:

    Knee-slapper, epo!

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  36. Old Fart says:

    @24 e plat:

    I never said I much cared for the guy, I just meant I didn’t think he was stupid. Amoral, partisan, and luckless, maybe. Stupid, not so much.

    Your points about him underscore that the Republican focus was altered towards jingoistic surrealism under St. Ronnie. Selling arms to the bad guys? All part of the corporatization plan…

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