Holy Crap. No, Seriously, Actual HOLY Crap.
So, out of the clear blue, the Catholic church has decided, contrary to years of wanting to force women to have babies under the guise of pro-life, has decided that maybe a fetus isn’t a person after all.
But only if it will cost them money.
A woman pregnant with twins shows up at a Catholic hospital emergency room. The doctor is paged. He refuses to respond to the page and she dies, along with the twins she was carrying.
The husband sues for wrongful death of his wife and the twins.
And the lawyer hired by the Catholic church argues —
As Jason Langley, an attorney with Denver-based Kennedy Childs, argued in one of the briefs he filed for the defense, the court “should not overturn the long-standing rule in Colorado that the term ‘person,’ as is used in the Wrongful Death Act, encompasses only individuals born alive. Colorado state courts define ‘person’ under the Act to include only those born alive. Therefore Plaintiffs cannot maintain wrongful death claims based on two unborn fetuses.”
Oh, so now a fetus is a person unless they are left neglected to die in a Catholic Hospital.
That’s the problem with sanctimony – it has a large capacity to bite back.
Thanks to everybody for the heads up.
Nope, not people…even though she was seven months along.
http://coloradoindependent.com/126808/in-malpractice-case-catholic-hospital-argues-fetuses-arent-people
1Just when I thought the Catholic Church leadership couldn’t stoop any lower….
2There’s no hypocrisy lower than “holy” hyprocrisy.
3It was hard, but I’m glad I left the church 2 years ago.
They would have had to admit wrongdoing, but the fact that the church cannot says volumes.
I would have had more respect for them if they had said yes we screwed up and 3 people died. But they didn’t.
I should have left years earlier.
4This from the same church that moved around known child molester priests from diocese to diocese to protect them from detection. Gah.
5Their hypocrisy knows no bounds, especially when it involves money.
6And giving abortion rights activists everywhere a legal leg to stand on? Please say yes.
7It has been a long, long day of stupidity, idiocy, hypocrisy and general insanity. Off to a hot bath and half a glass of pinot.
And because it has been an atrocious day I’d like to share one of my favorite rants via Dixie Carter (Julia Sugarbaker from Designing Woman). I think JJ may have posted the video a while back . . . Words only here.
“Designing Women: The Candidate (#3.2)” (1988)
Julia: I do not think everyone in America is ignorant! Far from it! But we are today, probably, the most uneducated, under read, and illiterate nation in the western hemisphere. Which makes it all the more puzzling to me why the biggest question on your small mind is whether or not little Johnny is gonna recite the Pledge of Allegiance every morning! I’ll tell you something else, Mr. Brickett. I have had it up to here with you and your phony issues and your Yankee Doodle yakking! If you like reciting the Pledge of Allegiance everyday then I think you should do it! In the car! In the shower! Wherever the mood strikes you! But don’t try to tell me when or where I have to say or do or salute anything, because I am an American too, and that is what being an American is all about! And another thing, I am sick and tired of being made to feel that if I am not a member of a little family with 2.4 children who goes just to Jerry Fallwell’s church and puts their hands over their hearts every morning that I am unreligious, unpatriotic, and un-American! Because I’ve got news for you, Mr. Brickett. All liberals are not kooks, anymore than all conservatives are fascists! And the last time I checked, God was neither a Democratic nor a Republican! And just for your information, yes I am a liberal, but I am also a Christian. And I get down on my knees and pray everyday – on my own turf – on my own time. One of the things that I pray for, Mr. Brickett is that people with power will get good sense, and that people with good sense will get power… and that the rest of us will be blessed with the patience and the strength to survive the people like you in the meantime!
8Bravo Julia!! Thanks, Angela!!
9Nothing like consistency, just like the clergy who take vows of celibacy and then molest little boys. There seems to be one constant pervading current church doctrine – hypocrisy in practice.
10Spent 8 & a half years in a seminary. A year & a half of theology, before my good angel told me to leave. I was taught at that time that if a nun was raped & conceived, abortion was OK. I guess it was the scandle thing, as was the case with pedophile priests. Hide it. The roman catholic church in America blames its declining numbers on a degenerate society. It really needs to look in the mirror. I still believe in a loving God, & a woman’s right to choose.
11Ditto on thanking Angela for posting that!
And it seems the Catholic church, like virtually any large, entrenched institution, will go onto Cover Your A** mode no matter what the issue when it or its money are threatened. If that means tying itself into knots of inconsistency, so be it.
12I’m not sure why anybody should be surprised by this turn of events. The Church has been about the business of protecting itself going back to the 300’s (Nicene Creed, anybody?), when a bunch a men around a table decided what everybody was supposed to believe. Then, they ordered that all material not in line with their dicta were to be destroyed. Except, of course, there have been rebels since the git-go. That’s why the Gnostic Gospels were hidden away in an earthen jug, not to be found until 1945. Oh, and the Gospels of Thomas and Mary. Pope Benny hasn’t bothered to offer an explanation for those.
The only “deity” I pray to is the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I dare anybody to explain how that makes me Un-American. After all, I was born in an Army hospital in TEXAS!
13Catholics, by and large, are great. The Catholic Church is a giant stain.
14The sudden twist of the neck on fetus/people at the Catholic hospital has gone viral!!! That means world wide, folks. Cradle Catholic here. Could never buy the majority of their views on the most private areas of existence. Had it up to here with the r.c.c. some time ago and said sayanora. Don’t miss it at all.
15Late to the party and because their tootsie were getting pretty toasty, but apparently the bishops have decided to “review”. I’m just going to bet that wraps up after the case is decided.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-catholic-bishops-review-lawsuit-saying-fetuses-not-070256198.html
16Don’t know why anyone expects a bunch of people who happen to profess a certain creed and have some delegated powers and responsibilities (and happen to like to dress up in 16th century SCA style clothes) to actually BE DIFFERENT from, and especially better than, any other bunch of people. They were people first. That means regardless of any claims to the contrary or other dissimilarities, THEY ARE GOING TO ACT LIKE PEOPLE! And they do, constantly!
If the Holy Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, then surely an alliance between and among the Church (or an affiliate, eg this hospital) a secular law firm with an eye to profit, and a lawsuit with what is undoubtedly a great deal of money at stake are an UNholy trinity! What a mess! And not only that, they should have just settled out of court for crying out loud!
17A bit of history: When Jackie Kennedy gave birth to a child that only lived about 48 hours, they had to petition Rome for permission to bury the child in consecrated ground because the Church did not recognize it as being a person with a soul and therefor worthy of consecrated ground. Hypocrisy does wear pointy hats. This Catholic thinks so.
Miscarriages? What do you think?
18Having sat through many sermons against abortion during the presidential campaign with the implication that we should vote Republican, I am waiting for one on gun control….and waiting….
19and… Doesn’t this fall under the category of “The Sanctity of Life”?
Apparently not enough to risk taking a stand.