Hey FEC, I Found That God Guy You Were Looking For
I have spent most of two weeks calling people to beg them to do calling for Hillary and our local candidates. I sent them a list, some pertinent information, and they start making calls.
Not so with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump, the leader of the Republican Party, can dish it out but he sure can’t take it. You are un-allowed to say tacky things about him and it wants that promised in writing.
In order to call for Donald Trump as a volunteer, you have to sign a 2,217 word non-disclosure contract not to disparage Trump, his products, or his family – for damn ever.
If you want to read it for yourself, here it is. It’s straight outta crazy town.
Check #10. For freekin’ ever.
Thanks to Kyle for the heads up.
Trump’s Ten Agreements.
Not quite the succinct simplicity of the Ten Commandments.
Although… Trump might have pulled it off if only Charlton Heston was still around to act out the agreement in a film version. With a gun.
1What crap! Non-disclosure agreements in perpetuity without compensation have been invalidated in the courts. The logic of the company: we’re paying you so you can’t talk. Fine. Courts have agreed because you’re being compensated. But… the company says even when we end compensation (fire you, lay you off, etc.) we can still control your behavior. WRONG! Why people keep writing these indefensible and downright illegal pieces of crap is beyond me.
Brainfart: Oh, it’s Trump.
2Here’s the part I find so weird:
“if earlier, the date Mr. Trump announces that he will not run or will no longer run for the Presidency of the United States of America in the current U.S. presidential election cycle.’
3This is probably the standard boilerplate that he uses to weasel out of paying the people he hired to do work for him.
4So he has created a document so he can sue his volunteers??? I guess this explains Cory Ledendowski’s behavior.
5@JAK, you are correct. The key is continued compensation. If they PAY you to not say anything, then its enforceable. Similarly, non-compete clauses have been thrown out with a similar caveat. If the company pays you during the non-compete period, you are obligated to not work for a competitor. I wonder why his lawyers never put a non-compete clause into their agreement…it would be just as unenforceable but ‘scary’ sounding.
6“10. Survival. This agreement will survive the expiration, cancellation or termination of any employment or independent contractor relationship that you may have with the Company or with any individual, entity, partnership, trust or organization that the Company has engaged.”
I think this only applies to employees and contractors as volunteers are not specifically called out but employees and contractors are – AND – it only applies to paid relationships with the “Company” and anyone it hires.
Yeah, I’ve had to sign a lot of these during my life as a programmer.
7Well hey, Trump’s got to ensure that he’s got his lawsuits lined up for the next decade or so. And anyone who signs this thang deserves whatever they get.
As to JAK’s statement: So it’s illegal? So what? That’s never stopped Drumpf before. He can still sue — and get “those people” to pay all court costs, don’tcha know.
It’s working for the Mexico Wall, isn’t it?
8Oh, wait – – –
People stupid enough to stump for Drumpf will sign anything put in front of them without reading it. The ACLU should send in a couple of “volunteers” to make calls about the real Drumpf and then see if their lawsuit holds up.
9Ohferpete’ssake. What an idiot. And the people who sign that.
I haven’t done lots of volunteer politicking, but I’ve only been asked for my name and contact info. Calling Scumpf a piece o’ work is much too harsh toward work.
10Wow. It’s like a contract that a cult would have you sign, if cults had contracts. (I’m not sure about the Scientologists.)
Non-compete clauses are unenforceable, once there’s no more compensation? Thanks for the info – good to know.
I think a few hundred librulls should go in undercover as volunteers, gather every bit of scurrilous dirt they can find, then anonymously deliver it to every media outlet available. Let Drumpf pay his lawyers to chase their tails on that.
It’s a real testament to Drump’s character; only people with a lot to hide, or crazy people, are this paranoid.
11So, someone… disclosed… the terms of the non-disclosure agreement? Heh. Funny.
To err is human, to forgive is Not Company Policy.
– anonymous reformulation of Alexander Pope
😉
I demand to see Chump’s long-form worth certificates!
12(Yes, I’m a “worther” and proud of it.)
Keep America Great Again!
Clinton/Kaine 2016
The fact that he has supporters who willingly sign this says a lot about his supporters.
They really are stupid. And clueless.
13Lunargent: I think he fits both categories. Two Crows: you beat me to the lawsuit angle. . All I could think was that he’s probably got God knows how many lawyers on retainer. Can’t have ’em sitting around wasting time defending innocent people or bringing cases before the supreme court. If he’s paying them money, they better by-God be working for him.
14I’ve run into people like this for years. They think all that legalese blahblah makes them look important. Hell, get enough of these damn non-disclosure agreements, put them all together and they make a fab fire. That’s all they are good for. Ashes to ashes. Can pretty much say the same thing about the people who are hooked on them.
15What moron would sign that piece of toilet paper? Or are the volunteers forced? At Twitter point!
16So, the only non-disclosure agreements that are valid would be if, say, there was a cash settlement involved? Like in a lawsuit?
And I’m sure that trade secrets, work product, etc. would apply. Because that’s proprietary knowledge.
But just saying what went on is fair game, huh? Not to mention a free and fair exercise one one’s own opinion.
17To be clear, giving up trade secrets or proprietary information could be/would be a legitimate basis for prosecution. However, non-competes also usually include some clause that trys to prevents you from working for a competitor. Companies have tried to use a broad definition of competitor to include any other company that is active in the same field. Thus if you are a lawyer, one law firm may try to define a competitor as any firm practicing law. If you are molecular biologist working for a firm, the definition of a competitor could include any other company with activities in molecular biology…directly or indirectly. Hence, you cannot practice your trade to earn a living….courts have thrown that kind of thing out.
18Mel,
19I had to sign a “non-compete” agreement when I retired.
I (and a bunch of others) was offered several times over the years a nice ‘Bronze parachute’, with lots of enticements in addition to a fairly good pension. I finally couldn’t resist when I was 54 and took it. The non-compete was for at least two years, IIRC, part of the package just happened to be two years salary, so I guess they had an airtight deal (and this was probably long before any of those judicial rulings in the employees favor).
Hell, I usually read legalese thoroughly and do huge ‘due diligence’ before signing anything (learned that early, especially when dealing with real estate, IMO the crookedest field), but the company docs were tough to wade through, real legal beagle pros in the corp. legal div.
Wow, forever! That’s even longer than Scientology’s billion year contract for the Sea Org.
Poor Donnie. Another classic case of overcompensation for the short whatevered one.
20Huh. You mean he might be promising to pay people to volunteer, if they get lucky? Well, if I knew Donny like Don knows Donny, I’d call my lawyer before I made a single phone call. You really think he gets phone banking done that way? Totally weird.
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