Good Lord, Even The Crazies Don’t Want Us
Douglas MacKinnon, a former speechwriter for Presidents Reagan and Daddy Bush, has written a book. He wants folks in the South to secede and form a new nation named …. wait for it … Reagan. (Sorry about that Bush family.)
He told the religious conservative host that southern states – starting with Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina – should leave the United States so they can implement a right-wing Christian system of government.
Now some people would call that treason. McKinnon calls it “the Christian thing to do.” He says that it can be a peaceful secession because the South had a peaceful secession before President Lincoln initiated “an illegal war.”
Now, in case you’re wondering, he doesn’t say what status black people will have in Reagan. But, if you’re gay and / or Hispanic, you can kiss your house goodbye. You’re outta here.
Now let this sink in.
But he made clear that LGBT people would be second-class citizens – or worse – saying that advances in their rights as citizens was a major factor in his call to break up the United States.
“If you do believe in traditional values, if you are a Christian, if you are evangelical, if you do believe in the golden rule, then you’re seeing all of this unravel before our eyes daily,” he complained.
Wait wait wait just a damn minute. Did he say The Golden Rule? Which Golden Rule? The one that say “He who has the gold makes the rules?” The Golden Rule doesn’t say, “Do until heterosexuals as you would have heterosexuals do unto you.”
He does know that Christians do not own the Golden Rule, right?
And where does Texas fit in?
MacKinnon envisions other states joining, but he hopes to leave out Texas because “there have been a number of incursions into Texas and other places from some of the folks in Mexico.”
Yeah, those Hispanics just screw up the gene pool.
It should come as no shock to you that MacKinnon is an old white guy.
This guy is crazy! Why can’t the new nation be named … Reagan Bush? Or Reagan Limbaugh Bush?
1Or simply Hate Nation?
Yeah, and the pesky fact that Mexico used to OWN Texas, so those folk are right at home, causes him no sleepless nights.
He is yet another simpering religious nut who’d be beheading folk, save for the fact that he was born into the religion a bit older and more past it’s adolescence than Islam. Pure chance, and an artifact of geography, as is all religion.
2I have ventured as far as Atlanta. Things looked as different there to my eyes as they did in Korea staring across the DMZ into the Democratic People’s Republic. At that moment in Atlanta I told my little bride it’s as if a stifling curtain has fallen. A Cotton Curtain if you will. And ever since I have referred to those quirky to crappy states east immediately east of Texas as “behind the Cotton Curtain”. Hopefully those people will someday be free.
3The adherents of Christian Dominionism such as MacKinnon are going to push harder for this fundamentalist Christian equivalent of Iran in the coming years. They are taking over state legislatures one by one and will probably introduce bills of secession at the earliest opportunity.
4Bless his heart. He COULD set up his own little country in his back and front yard with tall fences around them, don’t you think? and his own big garden and water system aNd electricity generating system aNd clothing factory and his own money printing computer. How many neighbors you think he could entice to elect him president of Reagan and be willing to pay for a sheriff and a judicial system?
5Oh if only they would pack their bags and leave. Unfortunately, there are many American citizens in those states who are not white, Christian nor crazy. Once again rwnj’s simply assume they speak for everyone and would be horrified, if they ever came out of their stupor of denial, to find that they do not.
6How to get it into their thick heads that this is a country founded on the right of the individual to choose his/her religion or to choose freedom from what passes for KKKristian conservatism or any other faith for that matter. And the constitution provides for the rights of individuals to marry whomever they choose. It’s called the pursuit of happiness.
Aw, poor man. He’s just as senile as Reagan, too.
7I am all for this! They send us their minorities and we send our Rw nut jobs that hate all things truly American (like diversity). I have several things, that when you really think about it, will help the rest of America (and RWers sure haven’t thought clearly thought things through:
Social security – we just lost a lot of payees and 90% of those morons just lost their income
Hurricanes – no tax money going to help Florida. To make it even more just – the state will keep getting more and worse hurricanes as climate change marches on. The RWers don’t believe in climate change anyway.
Borders – now I want the wall.
No foreign aid to this new country, even though their roads and bridges are crumbling.
Medicare enrollment in the US just dropped enough that we can now go to a single-payer system for all.
Our old war hawk citizen just got decimated. Think how much we will save on unnecessary wars.
We can repeal the War on drugs and legalize marijuana. Lots of money saved, new tax revenue and lots of lives put back into productivity.
Job bills can finally be produced and enacted. Our infrastructure gets repaired.
Women in charge of their own bodies again.
8“Peaceful secession” means that South Carolina’s firing on Fort Sumter was just a symbolic, “Bye,bye, You-All.” Who knew those Federals would over-react?
When I was a child the adults often said, “It is too bad we lost the war.” And you know which war they meant.
My contemporaries said, “It is best that we lost the war.”
I have to admit a twinge when I heard my nephew say, “They lost the war.”
We seem to have moved back three generations.
9Nope, nope and nope. These dopes lost the Civil War, so are living on borrowed time and land. They are free to go. Again, they can pack their possessions, join up on an iceberg where they can reap the benefits of their science denial and invite their lunatic $arah to be their governor.
Operant word. GO.
Or, if they insist on their Dominionist moment, then fine. Fly/sail/swim or however, go to Israel and wait your time. No doubt the Zionists will welcome them with open arms and a parade. Yep, they’ve been merely marking time in Israel to have the grifters take over and convert everyone to Christianity for the final moment.
10Cheryl says: # 7
Hahaha win win! Makes perfect sense to me.
11Sigh.
12If they want to go all North Korea on us, good riddance, but we need to insist they pay us back in full for all the military bases and related infrastructure. Then we slap on some serious visa restrictions so they lose the tourism bucks. Since the rest of us send them more tax dollars than they send us, they might get an instructive lesson on what it means to love thy neighbor.
13It’s hard not to agree with Cheryl and others who say we’d love the right wing, anti-government, anti-science, “Christian” bigots to just go away, and I think a lot of people would be happier if we’d make the split. But as maryelle points out, it can’t be an even split when a lot of Us live among Them and vice versa.
We used to be able to live together. Back in 1976 there really *wasn’t* a lot of difference between Ford and Carter, except that Carter was openly religious and that made some of us nervous. (We didn’t know how good we had it then.)
When gays can get married in most states and we can elect a black man President and at least one woman is taken seriously as a likely President, I don’t want to go back. But I wish we could get along and have a functioning government, and– being the unbiased observer that I am– that would be a bloody sight easier if the GOP center weren’t a thousand miles to the right of where it was then.
14More:
Faux Nuuz will no longer have the viewership in the rest of the US – so there will be no reason to broadcast here.
Scalia will get disgusted and join the Supreme Court of Reagan, taking his Little Me (Thomas) with him.
Politicians like Newt, Bachmann, Santorum, Palin, Boehner, McConnell, Cruz, etc. will run to Reagan.
Schools will start serving students meals at no cost to any of them.
15“So what’s a God-fearing, gun-toting, gay-loathing supporter of traditional values to do? It’s time, MacKinnon argues, to start thinking about drastic measures. The author was on Mefferd’s program to promote his new book, “The Secessionist States of America: The Blueprint for Creating a Traditional Values County … Now.” You can guess what he proposes.”
http://www.salon.com/2014/10/22/reagan_aide_south_should_secede_and_create_a_new_anti_gay_country_called_reagan/
16You know, maybe if these idiots didn’t get so much press, they would just fade away. Sigh, guess that won’t happen 🙁
17Good grief.
18And I thought that dinosaurs were extinct…
19Cheryl, you forgot Scalia’s other mini me, Alito.
20“If you do believe that you are always entitled to have your own way 100% and to show nothing but contempt for anyone who differs from you then you’re seeing all of this unravel before our eyes daily,” he complained.
He should name his new nation “Bush League.”
21I’ll say it again . . . he just devised his own competency test . . . and flunked it.
22Secession … After all, isn’t it the “patriotic” thing to do?
23Imagine how the African Americans will feel when they are told that they no longer are protected by Constitutional Rights or statutory rights of the USA.
Taking Constitutional Rights away from that many people will not be easy and it will not be peaceful.
24Can we be sure the rest of the country will not longer be
25traumatized by the sight of Gohmert, Perry and Cruz.
I would really like to see the three of them on an island together!
I wonder if we would empty out Congress too?
Do you think they would elect a bachmann/palin ticket?
Honestly, when people realize how much they would have to give up, I doubt they would need a state the size of RI.
Can you imagine if the liberals talked about taking over 3 states to build our own utopia?
26The conservatives would go nuts. well, more nuts the Louie.
You know what Florida, Georgia and South Carolina don’t have?
Warplanes, tanks, ships, iron, coal, oil, gold, wheat, soybeans, corn, etc etc… and brains.
In fact, they are worse off now then they were when they tried it the FIRST time.
27Hey, you know what else? OUR Congress would be decidedly Dem!
I LIKE this idea.
28Mental illness seems to be growing by leaps and bounds in this country and he is the poster child.
29The race to the bottom is picking up speed.
I would really like to see this happen. When the state citizens find out how much they will lose (assuming they’re not all FOX viewers, in which case they won’t find out much) I suspect money would trump MacKinnon’s brand of Kristian values.
30Well, I suppose it’s an improvement over creating a country for the sole purpose of owning slaves.
31It’s long been my contention that the only objection these people have with sharia is the failure to mention Jesus by name. That, and that they’re worried that someone else is better at imposing rigid adherence on their followers.
32It’s going to be a long drive for those folks in Reagan to catch the specials at Red Lobster.
33That face…he’s dead, Jim. There’s your zombie all right.
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