Counting
Okay, so I came across this and it confused me.
So, the poll says that 49% say it was “an insurrection … that threatened democracy.”
Then 19% said it was unfortunate but “it’s in the past,” meaning that they have had enough Donald Trump and his hillbillies to last a lifetime so quit talking about it.
And last and least, 25% say that it was a “political act of free speech,” without considering the physical damage to the capitol building and five people who died of free speech.
So, it seems to me that we have decided what to call it.
Just 25% think this was an act of heroics and they all live in states who didn’t learn a damn thing in the civil war.
So that leaves 7% with what? No opinion?
1So 25% are hate filled fascist aholes. 19% think they had enough of DiaperDon! DiaperDon is nothing it is the hate filled aholes that are the real problem!!
2And invading property not your own is NOT free speech it is terrorism!!!!
I don’t know, but I would have thought at least a few more than 49% in this pole would have seen the Jan 6 insurrection for what it was, domestic terrorism and treason. Of the 51% that didn’t see it that way, we know half are hoping for a repeat if not a full on civil war. Don’t know about that 19% or the missing 7% but I’m worried for the future.
3What scares me is that this was an NPR, PBS poll. I kind of thought with that audience, left and center left folks the 49% group would be much larger. But what do I know, maybe more folks are just tired of Drumpf and anything to do with him and his ilk.
I still blame conservatives for trying to kill public education since I was in school (a million years ago) and the resultant dumbing down of this country. Or I’m just old and out of touch.
4Remember back when Jay Leno used to ask passers-by random questions, mostly about history or geography? One med school student claimed that Cairo was just on the other side of Atlanta, Georgia. That’s when I realized a couple of possibilities when random folks are expected to know, you know, stuff. One is that there really are some ignorant, or at least uninformed, people out there. Want to know some pop star’s latest fingernail polish color? They’ll know that, but not whether the Capitol was attacked. The second is an attempt to be manipulative. Maybe some respondents don’t trust the poll’s intrusion, or they think they’re being funny, or they want to deliberately mislead. In other words, asking random citizens may reveal more about who asks, how questions are framed, how results are interpreted, or how truly random the pool is, yielding results not always reflective of the truth. Maybe we’re reading too much into poll results. I’d bet that most Americans don’t have a clue about what goes on in this country on a day to day basis. And it’s that apathy that’s really the problem.
5There is still some confusion of the appropriate name for the events of 1861- 65, if I am not mistaken, when there was a major dispute among a number of states.
6I expect somewhere in Egypt some believe that their ancestors caused the fall of the Roman Empire.
Lost causes can take on a life of their own.
I couldn’t figger out how those numbers were off so bad, until I I looked again at who did the pollin.
7There’s yer trouble.
PBS, NPR, and Marxist college.
I mean seriously, the big yellow gay bird people, the All Things Communist folks, and the college that says right there on their website that they’re librl artists? (They ain’t foolin me with that sneaky invisible X in the name, but you KNOW they’re paintin pichers of gay guys burning flags at their pep rallies)
Hell I bet their pollin questions didn’t even list the obvious scenario with the Antifa agitators and all the BLM folks in whiteface. Funny how none of them got arrested amiright?
Everybody knows given the REAL choices of answers, 90% woulda said we was robbed.
The other 15% woulda been dumbass libtards.
I was not aware that spraying a police officer with bear spray is a protected “political act of free speech.”
I have been hit with bear spray. In decades of exploring the Alaska wilderness, always carrying a can of bear spray, I have had two accidental discharges. It’s awful stuff. Just a whiff left me struggling to breathe for about fifteen minutes. I can’t imagine getting a big blast directly in the face, as happened to police officers on January 6.
I think intentionally discharging bear spray at anybody would be more like, um, “felony assault.”
8I agree 1/6/21 was illegal and punishable.
They didn’t burn the Capitol.
So what were the BLM riots?
Cairo, GA is just north of Tallahassee.
Been there several times while at FSU.
9What was 1/6 attack on the capital? Including all the behind the scenes stuff, it was an attempt to illegally subvert an election and basically take over the government by someone that wasn’t elected, like in a 3rd world country. I don’t see any relevant comparison to the BLM riots.
10Right on, Steve! This business of trying to tie BLM protests to insurrection is total racism. Those insurrectionists were plain old Vanilla ISIS!
11Ormond.
The BLM protests were vastly more peaceful compared to the violence that happened. But people marching peacefully don’t sell a lot of advertising so it isn’t too surprising which video got more airtime. And that’s on the actual news shows. Right wing media showed the worst continuously. Ad nauseam. Probably still do every chance they get.
But IMHO the purpose of the protests, whether you agreed with the need for them or not, was to try to get the same protections laid out in the Constitution for all citizens.
Because having them on paper doesn’t always translate to everybody equally in everyday practice.
Pro Constitution, just for everyone.
Trump told everybody who’d listen to show up on Jan. 6th to stop the Constitutionally mandated process of transferring executive power.
From him.
Because apparently he didn’t think the parts of the Constitution that didn’t help him applied right then.
Funny thing about constitutions though.
If you trash a part of it that important, the rest of it’s pretty much up for grabs to pick and choose from.
By whoever’s got the most guns.
Of course they didn’t burn down the Capitol. They were counting on using it right away. They probably didn’t start crapping on the floors till they realized it wasn’t quite working out like…… somebody planned. “HEY SOMEBODY’S GOT A PLAN RIGHT? Crap”
So let’s recap.
Door #1, BLM protests:
Pro Constitution, pro Democracy, but some property got torn up and burned in the process.
Door #2. F**king trump’s attempt at making himself dictator:
Attempted end of American Democracy and a whole lot of tearing up and burning’ll get done on a regular basis.
Hmph. I guess if I squint real hard I could see how you’d get em confused.
12All according to which news stations people watch .
13Yeah, I’ve had people call the Civil War the War of Northern Aggression when the south very clearly broke off from the union, attacked, and also fired the first shots of the war. Yup, the face to the fists sent them reeling. Up is down. Left is right. Ketchup is a vegetable.
14At least nobody said it was a visit from some patriotic tourists. Sorry, Ron Johnson, thanks for playing.
15I was more taken with the poll question with a choice of response between
There is a serious threat to the future of our democracy – 78% of adults
and
There is not a serious threat to the future of our democracy – 19% of adults
Remarkably consistent with the results of the same question in January 2021 and November 2021 (both 81% – 15%) — on polls with MOE +/- 4.1 percentage points.
So, a LARGE majority understand the stakes as “the future of our democracy.” There obviously is room for multiple opinions of what the “serious threat” may be, but if they are paying attention, there is a chance to convince them with descriptions that will emerge in the coming months.
16Look what happens when the “Daily Show” combines Fake Noize reporting on BLM protests with Jan 6th insurrection footage. Makes Fake Noize truth tellers for a minute and twenty seven seconds. Absolute poetry in motion.
https://www.rawstory.com/viral-video-the-daily-show-uses-fox-news-hosts-attacking-blm-protests-but-with-jan-6-insurrection-footage/
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