Broken Fun With Guns Rules
Fun With Guns has some rules. To make Fun With Guns, first of all, nobody can die in the story unless it’s the person accidentally shooting themselves. If you run a Goggle search on “accidental shooting” you will see dead bodies everywhere.
But sometimes there is an exception.
Authorities say the owner of an Ohio gun shop who was teaching a concealed carry class was fatally shot in the neck by a student who accidentally fired a weapon.
The (Cincinnati) Enquirer reported that the shop owner, 64-year-old James Baker, was shot on Saturday while students practiced weapon malfunction drills.
I do not know where the good guy with a gun was, but he was probably not trained too well either.
Thanks to everybody for the heads up.
Oops.
(Well, isn’t that what the ammosexuals say when this kind of thing happens?)
1He got shot when he was sitting in a different room – so I guess that means their walls are just sheet rock. You would think shooting ranges would require cinder blocks
2sharon, The kind of arms many of today’s ammosexuals wave around go right through a mere cinder block.
3(presume you mean the usual concrete semi-hollow construction blocks in many buildings, although the common metal buildings w/veneer faces and sheetrock partitioning are even more ‘shootable’)
The calibers and loads used today by many civilians far exceed even standard military issue line weapons.
Many now popular ‘hot’ cartridges, from cal .20’s and up to .50’s (.50BMG was the standard light AA until mid-WWII, still in common use as AP/AV/etc), special 12ga shotgun loads, etc., will blow right through most any normal walls.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_masonry_unit
As Ron White would say—You can’t fix Stupid.!
4I’ve seen comments on gun control bills noting that we did pass laws against civilians having machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades. From what Sandridge says, RPGs aren’t far off what they’ve got now anyway.
I feel so much safer! How about y’all?
5The good guy with a gun was prolly at the bar trying to get his/her courage up. Not that many untrained, paid professionals face down an assault weapon with a pistol or revolver and no liquid courage. Why, that’d be suicide.
6So the victim is to blame for all this? 1.) The lack of his supervision. 2.) His highly permeable building materials. You name it. Lately its all the victim’s fault, no matter who, where, when, how,why.
7Standard .223 round fired from M-16 or AR-15 was designed to penetrate a metal army helmet from side to side. Handguns are usually less powerful unless you are after big bears.
8If I were that teacher–and if I were still alive–I would absolutely flunk that student!
Some good news. The Supreme Court just refused to review a case that had upheld restrictions on automatic weapons, thus leaving the restrictions in place and enabling other states to also pass restrictions.
9Rhea,
To clarify, full auto weapons (machine guns) have been severely restricted from civilians since ~1934. It’s still possible to own and use them legally, just very difficult (and illegally is trivial for anyone wanting to have them).
The same with calibers over .50 inch. Hence some fancy shotgun ’rounds’ (most shotgun gauges are bigger than .50 cal, anybody ever fired a 10ga, yeeooww).
Exploding and incendiary projectiles too, basically outlawed for most kinds and people, unless…
But a lot of developmental ingenuity has gone into producing weaponry which is nominally within the law, but far more powerful than before available.
I still sometimes read the gunnut lit today, once belonged to the NRA, but the insane paranoia prevalent more recently drove me away long ago. That said, I’m keeping my ‘stuff’, may get some more before any outlawing…
Like I commented a week or so ago here would happen, arms sales have increased exponentially since Orlando.
10Not that the NRA and weapon manufacturers even have to find any paid assassins to stir up sales, the indigenous ‘in the wild’ whackjobs are now numerous enough to keep the momentum going forever…
Dangnabit, forgot this from previous comment:
Y’all realize that our own transplanted whackjob/political consultant Ted (Poopy) Nugent still legally owns and uses some full auto (MG) weapons at his casa near Waco, don’t you?
Even after all his presidential/et al., verbal threats…a clear case of the Obama admin’s ‘softness’.
Y’all can’t imagine a Nixon, or even Dumbya, admin tolerating some DFH librul doing this without an avalanche burying them, can you?
The admin should have jerked the BATF/SS around enough to take Teddie’s very special toyz away forever (not his everyman’s arms, just the MG full-auto’s, etc.).
11If you are learning to shoot a gun in a “formal” classroom setting why aren’t blanks used instead of live rounds?
12Blanks are used for the advanced classes. Live rounds are used to cull the weak,the sick, the instructors…..
13“cull the weak,the sick, the instructors…”
I’d say that’s just evolution at work, but I believe that’s illegal in Texas.
14Even Sandridge says he may “get some more before any outlawing.”
I hear that gun sales soar after each major massacre. Since there have been about 15 massacres that have prompted Obama to address each one, and I assume it’s mostly the minority of people who already have a bunch of guns who run out and buy more every time, can these people still move in their houses around all the guns? Do they have to make corridors and scuttle through them sideways? And does it occur to any of them that the horrible nasty ogres who are going to snatch away their gun-buying rights HAVE NEVER COME AND AREN’T COMING? More’s the pity.
It just makes the gun companies happy that these fools run out and buy more guns time and time again.
15From an article in the New Yorker-
This year, on January 5th, President Obama announced executive actions intended to expand the use of background checks. By the end of that day, the share price of Smith & Wesson, the largest U.S. gunmaker, had risen to $25.86, its highest level ever. After the attack in Orlando, shares of Smith & Wesson rose 9.8 per cent before the market opened the next day. Last week, the company reported that, in its latest fiscal year, revenue grew thirty-one per cent, to a record $733 million. In a call with investors and analysts, Smith & Wesson’s C.E.O., James Debney, said that he was “very pleased with the results that we got.”
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/after-orlando-examining-the-gun-business
16e platypus, this shows that when you deny an addict his drug of choice he will do more and pay more to get his fix.
17Spokesman for Gun Owners of America told Carol Costello that bars should regulate the amount of booze they sell and allow armed customers. Regulate booze,not guns. Booze kills. Guns don’t
18Grrr.
19epo, kinda makes you wonder if the gun companies are encouraging massacres, since they’re so good for business.
To quote a certain jackwagon, “People are saying….!”
20Rhea, your last comment is what I was thinking. For the weapons corporations, er, I mean, NRA, massacres are good for business. So they cheer on Orlando, the Colorado theatre, Sandy Hook. Holy god, the level of depravity, of greed over even a moderate level of decency, is indescribable.
21Debbo, possibly they don’t encourage massacres, if only because I’m not sure how they would, but they sure as hell do everything they can to prevent anybody stopping them.
Okay, now I’m wondering if the gun companies secretly fund the hate groups, the way the fossil-fuel companies fund the climate-change deniers. I don’t like thinking that anyone is that evil, but it’s possible.
22Live ammo for weapons malfunction training? Okay then, carry on.
23Even at my advanced age (79) I am shocked and saddened that so called respectable business people put personal profit ahead of person’s lives, even small children.
24Yeah,but, only 3% of murders were done by rifles and you libbies want to restrict access to them.
Yeah,but, only 3% of Planned Parenthood’s business is about abortion services and you wingnuts want to shut them all down.
25“Smith & Wesson’s C.E.O., James Debney”
So from now on we just bill Smith & Wesson for the funeral expenses because they can obviously afford them.
Then we can pile the caskets in his front driveway.
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