Because They Care About the Unborn
I’ve always had a problem with the term unborn. Would that make me undead?
Anyway, as you have heard the Great State of Texas wants to require women who have miscarriages or abortions to either bury or cremate the fetal material. District Judge Sam Sparks temporarily blocked this last month saying that it may violate a woman’s constitutional rights.
The Supreme Court standard on abortions is that when a rule creates an undue burden on women or when the burdens of the rule outweigh the benefits, then it’s unconstitutional. So, Sparks is holding hearings where both sides can present their case.
On our side: the Funeral Consumers Alliance of Texas believes that the rule will add about $2,000 to the cost of an abortion.
On their side: well, we didn’t mean actual burial.
The State of Texas says they meant a mass burial at $2 per fetus.
The mass grave appears to be the Department of State Health Services’ attempt to work around this problem. In court, Sims alleged that bulk burial would bring the cost down to $2 per buried fetus. This discount would remove the burden created by the rule, rendering it constitutional.
Bulk burial? Well, I’ll be damn. Ain’t that just real dignified?
Good God, Texas, you have no class whatsodamnever.
Thanks to everybody for the heads up.
A mass burial? What’s the shame in that? And isn’t shame the goal?
1Whenever I think they’ve run out of ways to surprise me, they always manage to find another one.
Bulk burial for two bucks. And that differs from disposal as medical waste how exactly?
2We were going through this last year, when it was determined that the state of Ohio was autoclaving miscarried fetuses even as they were trying to tar Planned Parenthood over the practice:
https://juanitajean.com/pp-2-evil-oh-gop-ag-0/
http://www.10tv.com/article/ohio-attorney-generals-planned-parenthood-statements-based-misinformation
I wonder how the state of Texas health facilities (including in women’s prisons) handle their medical waste?
3Yet these same stuck on st00pid stubborn busy bodies have no problem when they visit a proctologist who throws the best part of them in the trash can.
4Can we also require the brain dead (Texas legislators) to be buried in a mass grave as well? To save time, not money?
I’ll save them even more time, Juanita Jean’s customers get to vote on which ones qualify.
5Mass burials? Didn’t they have some of those in Poland in the 1940s?
6@Miz JJ
“Good God, Texas, you have no class whatsodamnever.”
7Well the jury’s been back on THAT case for a while. Some would say since January 16 1995. Others would say with only a 4 year reprieve while Ann Richards was in office, all the way back to when Dolph Briscoe departed office in January, 1979.
Republicans: All the compassion of a brain dead corpse. That’s exactly what women want for their miscarried fetuses. Personally, I’d rather mine had been donated to stem cell research, but I had no say in the matter. After all, I was only the mother.
8Isn’t it time for the ladies of Texas to start sending the governor your used tampons- you know, just in case there’s something there that needs to be buried?
9But what about that abortion called Louie Gohmert? Hell, I’d pay 2 bucks to bury him.
10Paul, my thoughts exactly. I’ve been to Terezin/Theresienstadt and Lidice. Chilling.
11Next up, the state of Texas builds a wall to name the mothers of the unborn and makes Planned Parenthood pay for it.
12Mass burial for $2 for each “unborn” they claim to have such reverence for. That is serious bullshit. (Sorry momma, but I would have said that in front of my own.)
13I guess this is their way of “cherishing” life (unborn, yay; undead, let us take your health insurance and rush that process along).
And, of course, we all know what it’s really about…control and punishment of sexually active women (who aren’t having sex with them ’cause they’re old, fat, ugly, and wear duck pajamas or diapers).
14Thank goodness for the Ladies Parts Justice League
http://ladypartsjusticeleague.com/
15I agree with lazgirl. I suspect many of us women have thought about how men would respond if we mounted a political campaign to regulate their sexuality. Oh, boy! (And I mean, Boy!)
Prison for loss of sperm due to premature whatever!
16I’ve been giving a lot of thought to the abortion issue lately. I’m old enough to remember the news clips of Sherry Weinstein boarding the SAS flight to Sweden where she could get an abortion. As a privileged white woman she had been touring Europe when her morning sickness got severe enough that a doctor provided her with Thalidomide. Upon returning stateside and learning of the epidemic of Thalidomide babies in Europe she tried to get an abortion in the USA. Being a woman of means, she was able to pay lawyers to go to court and argue her case but all to no avail, so she wound up going to Sweden where her Thalidomide-deformed pregnancy was terminated. As I recall this was a major impetus for states to begin to reform their laws relating to abortion. As usual New York was first — somewhere in early 1970, I think.
Other states followed suit but of course Texas was not among them which is why Roe v. Wade began in Texas. In early 1973, before it was fully in effect, a friend in New Orleans found herself with child. As a good Catholic girl, her father would have pulled her out of Tulane in a heartbeat and without the degree from Tulane she never would have been accepted to Notre Dame Law School. She flew to Chicago and I picked her up at the airport. She stayed at our apartment and the next day I drove her to the abortion clinic on Western Avenue. The last I heard from her (1981) she was a practicing attorney in California.
I think back to the days before all of this happened. When young women went to “Arizona for her mononucleosis”. I think of the people I know who were rushed into marriages that ended in divorce and abused children who went on to become child abusers themselves. Even today there is a young woman who is the child of a friend from the past and lives nearby. She had a child by an abusive man and 4 years later he is still making her life miserable by suing for custody of a child he never wanted because he wants to control HER.
It’s never a simple case even when the option is available. When it isn’t things get ugly quick. If you’re against abortion there are a few things you can do.
171) Don’t have one.
2) Support organizations like Planned Parenthood that don’t want you to be pregnant if you didn’t plan to be.
3) If you’re a male, learn to do what my Grandmother said and “Keep your whatchacallit in your pants.”
Wow! This blows me away! When my parents had a premature stillborn boy a year before I came along, the hospital simply asked if they could have the remains. Since the church did not have any sort of burial ritual for a premature stillborn (no baptism), my folks said yes. The fetus was “interred” in some sort of solution in a glass jar and put on a shelf in the lab. At least that is a helluva lot more dignified than an open pit deal.
18Hey, don’t blame God. I mean, the good ol’ boys don’t give Him credit for their bright ideas.
19I have plenty of ideas for reducing careless sexual activity. There is a chemical that has the effect of making the penis incapable of becoming erect. Lemme tell ya, that ought to do the trick. I’d also advocate for “extreme vetting” of men who want viagra. I suggest they must have a vasectomy or other forms of proven infertility.
20I see a plan to collect a big ol jar of these remains to be paraded around to horrify the voters into more restrictive laws. Which one of the lawmakers ‘Friends’ get the state funded disposal contract that costs us more than $2.00 each….not that I’m cynical or anything.
21What I wouldn’t give to observe a judge slap down these miscreants with one final instruction, “do not come before me until you have living proof of a man held down and forced to have an abortion.”
Barring that a judge taking a big whack at ‘legislators’ playing doctor without a license would be a good start.
As the recently neutered father of two, I am a big fan of Planned Parenthood. I must ask – what next for the controlling snacilbupeR if they succeed in controlling choice for women? Unsnip my snip?
I’m nearly speechless at the unmitigated audacity of the forced birthers to dictate the intimate details of my life with my wife. They have 100% freedom to make their personal choices. Yet they want more than their share of freedom; they want my freedom, your freedom and the freedom of anyone who is not cooperating with their whim of the day.
And. “whim” is the precise word. Because after they force the births, they’ll continue on to bash the parents who cannot afford to educate ten or more children. Hell, they already bash parents and stroll out critters like “Betsy” DeVos to rape school funding for her profit.
Barry Goldwater was right. The union between extremist snacilbupeR and the Xtian wrong was dangerous.
22Mass Burial! Good thing they are getting rid of the EPA as that could also be considered a hazard waste dump!
23Isn’t a mass burial the same as a city Dump???
But Debbo… that’s… that’s… unfair! We regulate your va-jay-jay but you can’t regulate our “little friend”! Your “friend”, too! Right, darlin’? *wink* *wink*
Y’know, I never thought I could write something so blatantly backwoods sexist, but… it’s not that difficult. I just had to revert to a spoiled brat 6 year old and it just flowed!
24BULK burials?
Exactly how many abortions do they think are being performed?
How many fetuses must be frozen/preserved/stockpiled for how long, before there’s a large enough number to make this economically feasible?
This is grotesque.
25How many $2 fetuses does it take to cover the cost of the bulldozer? Can you add a grandparent or other adult for $10?
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