And Then There’s This…
Russian state media is laughing at the US, saying that the files in TFG’s basement contain information about new nuclear weapons, and that they’ve already seen them. Let that sink in.
Meanwhile in Russia: Putin's mouthpieces on state TV are taunting America about "Top Secret" documents sought during the raid of Trump's estate, which they claim had to do with the newest nuclear weapons developed by the US and gleefully imply that Moscow already got to see them. pic.twitter.com/hmmphB4Utf
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) August 13, 2022
Like he hasn’t been sending classified info to our enemies since he took office?
1IMO best comment under Julia Davis’ tweet:
Steve Vladeck
2@steve_vladeck:
“I’m confused: How can Trump be so sure that he declassified the evidence that the FBI planted?”
I’m not surprised that the former president probably committed espionage. His sleazy business practices and law suit dodging were well known. Yet, he was elected.
To be elected and to be a US president, there’s no education requirements, no experience required, and no background/security screening. Hell, Walmart requires more when they hire door greeters.
3This ranks up there with the pee tape. On one level, we’d like it to be true but on the other hand we want it to be myth and just one more Russian lie.
4If nothing else, this clip indicates that the Russians have cut their ties with the Orange Moron and won’t be doing anything to help him or defend him in any way. How could it be otherwise? Lie down with dogs . . .
5I would not be at all surprised if the Russians had already seen at least some of whatever Trump stole and took to Mar-a-Lago. After all, why else would he steal them, except to sell them to the highest bidder? All Trump has ever been about is money.
6Seems like russia, russia, russia already paid trumpf for the nuclear weapons info and they admitted as much. He already got away with all his russia collusion before and I’m afraid he’ll probably get away with it again.
7One thing that seems to be overlooked in the complexity of the situation is that none of the documents belonged to TFG. They all belonged to the people of the USA. The fact that they were found in his possession is as damning as if they were cocaine. When a dealer is caught with a kilo of coke, it doesn’t matter if it is pure or cut with sugar. The crime is self-evident and the guilt is obvious.
8It is a variety/news show. Maybe a bit like Colbert or something similar? It can be quite funny—I’ve seen a couple of episodes that were subtitled in English.
There in no reason to think that it is any more than the hosts and writers mocking Trump and the USA. I am sure they would be happy to do something similar for Boris Johnson.
9If TFG is indicted, he should be confined immediately, for he is clearly a flight risk.
10Although I am among those who incline to the snarkish, this is really a matter so serious that I have a hard time finding any way to be sarcastic.
On the contrary, he should be left completely free to flee.
Yes, it hurts to let him avoid the prison time he require several times over. But if he decamps to Russia, a sizeable chunk of his followers will see that as a bridge too far. Not all of them, by any means. But enough to take this country a big step back towards sanity.
11notjonathon9 – The punishment for treason is a firing squad. As for me, I can’t produce snark about it – this story is making me feel ill.
12Ralph Wiggam, your analogy of a kilo of cocaine needs a little further explanation. The guilt is obvious because a kilo of cocaine is not a personal use amount, it is presumptively a distribution quantity, whether cut or not. One classified document might be an error. Boxes of documents labeled top secret, including those that are supposed to be reviewed only in a secured compartmentalized facility, creates a presumption of distribution. These documents were stolen 18 months ago. The Russians may be blowing the smoke of disinformation or they may have actually already received their copies. The Saudi government has given huge sums of money to the Trump family and they presumptively have received their copies.
13Ms. Carraway is normally conservative but has always been steadfastly against the Orange menace. She works at NASA and deals with such documents all the time. First, she asserts there is no way he didn’t know what he was doing. Secondly, in the case of any breech, they have been told that the authorities expect the worst. So whether or not he passed it along to Russia or not, it should be assumed that either he did or wants to. From here we have to prosecute him accordingly. Ms. Carraway wants him shot if that gives you any indication.
14I’m with Ms. Carraway. Nevertheless, I would enjoy seeing him on death row for a few years anticipating that.
15Perhaps a new tower?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ecar4dXWoAA-t9B?format=jpg&name=small
16Nick, sorry I must disagree with Ms. Carraway. Shooting him would let him off too easy. I prefer solitary confinement, Shawshank style, for the rest of his miserable life. Even that would never make up for the damage he has caused this country, and yes, the world. Face masks anyone?
17Opinionated Hussy @11
Treason is a heavy lift. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2021/01/08/a-civilian-s-guide-to-insurrection-legalese
“There are only two ways to commit this offense, they said: “levying war” against America or “giving aid and comfort” to one of the nation’s enemies” — and there is ambiguity about what is needed to be an “enemy.”
“the Supreme Court and Congress have further narrowed the scope of what constitutes treason: To be guilty, you must have the specific intent to betray the U.S. on behalf of an enemy and then commit an overt act of such betrayal. ”
the article considers the January 6 insurrectionists and opines “Given the prevalence of American flags on the Mall this week and the rioters’ chants of “U.S.A.! U.S.A.!”—however malicious their deeds—it would be nearly impossible for prosecutors to prove their goal was treasonous.”
18G Foresight, the new Trump Tower made me laugh. Paint it orange with a hairy like roof and it’s him. He actually deserves to be in gitmo when it was torturing terrorists to get to the truth. Water boarding him would be fitting.
19Mary Smith raises good points here. The adults in the US government really need to find out exactly what he had, and if e.g, Saudi Arabia suddenly finds a boost in their nuclear weapons research.
One problem an incompetent like Trump faces is that it requires massive amounts of data to hand over advanced technology to anyone. When the Israelis stole the design of a French fighter jet, they had to ship 15 tons of documents out of France into Israel to even get started. And the Israelis are by no means incompetents.
We’ve all seen the old movies where some evil country (commie, of course) steals the secret formula for X, which conveniently fits on a few sheets of paper, maybe in a briefcase. [I’ll leave off the requisite befuddled but brilliant Professor, along with his beautiful daughter who has to be rescued along with The Secrets.] Even in the 1930s that was unrealistic. When the Rosenburgs passed on nuclear secrets to Russia, they were only successful because there was a researcher at Los Alamos who knew exactly what technology and work would be critical to pass along.
Nowadays it’s easy to pass along information encrypted and digitally – but with hard copy it would require careful targeting and selection of the information to know what was useful to the customer. I can’t see anyone in the Twumper administration knowing that; they’d have to be instructed exactly on what to extract and pass along. So 11-15 boxes of material is a lower bound on what would be useful. If it turns out to be exactly what MSB needs to know to crank out third-generation nukes, then we’ll know it wasn’t just standard stupid sloppiness from the Orange Crime Family.
So I’d really like to find out just what was taken, but the problem is the government cannot and will not release that kind of info to the public. Fourth generation nukes? Anti-matter triggers for pure fusion weapons? Multistage EMPs? No way they would be able to come out and say that’s what was at Merde-a-Lardo.
20For a foe like Russia (or China or N. Korea), knowing what weapons, when and where would be useful in defending against them. Regardless, if what’s been alleged in the FBI DOJ warrant is true and confiscated from trumpf’s compound, it was criminal and needs to be dealt with. Harshly. Imagine what he would in another trumpf reign of terror if this goes unchecked.
21would it be karma if the Top Secret papers had bamboo fibers?
22weakgrip: Naw, it would not be karma. But it would be hilarious. I’d suggest trolling the right wing nut sites by posting it there: the files have bamboo fibers, so this whole thing is a Chinese false flag operation. To bring down T**** because the Chinese are terrofied at the thought of having to face him when he gets re-elected.
But then OAN, Fox News, Telegram, and “Truth” Social would be flooded with idiots taking it seriously …
Speaking of which: yesterday I had an enounter with an idiot who claimed that Trump himself developed the Covid vaccine. I mean this guy really thought T**** had set up a bio lab in the White House basement and by sheer genius developed it. We’ve got to go back to putting folks like that in padded rooms.
23Not a fan of the death penalty, and legally, that would be a heavy lift in peacetime. I’ll be more than happy with a simple 20 year sentence with no opportunity for parole for the first 17 years.
24I’m good with a felony conviction that insures he’ll never be allowed in the Oval Office for any reason. But 20 years sounds good too.
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