Tent City from Hell
Trump is considering opening a tent city to house all the children we are abducting from parents seeking political asylum.
The Department of Health and Human Services will visit Fort Bliss, a sprawling Army base near El Paso in the coming weeks to look at a parcel of land where the administration is considering building a tent city to hold between 1,000 and 5,000 children, according to U.S. officials and other sources familiar with the plans.
HHS officials confirmed that they’re looking at the Fort Bliss site along with Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene and Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo for potential use as temporary shelters.
I don’t think Trump knows that’s been tried before and resulted in a prison riot because conditions were so horrible.
I have been to El Paso and to Abilene (nicely referred to as the armpit of Texas). It’s hell hot. It’s dry. There is sand everywhere. There is no vegetation. People regularly die from heat in these cities. The only reason Abilene exists is Dyess Air Base, which is where nukes and B-1s were stored. Well, we don’t have nukes there now and the only thing a B1 can do is deliver nukes. So now they just do thunderous practicing runs over the mountains surrounding the city.
Fort Bliss is worse.
So round up the kids and stick them in a tent in Abilene. Or a tent anydamnwhere.
I spent a decade, one year in El Paso, Ft. Bliss to be exact, and the only thing worse than the heat and the sand was my ex- wife, cost me a small fortune to get rid of her and I had to transfer to Germany to leave McGregor Range, two decisions I never regretted.
1It is hot as hell, literally, and without air conditioning, people can and do die. And in my experience with Trump’s administration’s competence, we may see death tolls in the thousands, which he will just call fake news anyway. We are so screwed!
Let’s call these places what they are: concentration camps.
We have become the people our parents fought with every fiber of their beings to defeat.
2As someone who was born at Beaumont Army Hospital in Ft. Bliss, I bring some knowledge of the place to this discussion.
No. Just “NO!” The danger to the children and the sheer, appalling inhumanity simply cannot be approved. What on Earth is wrong with these people that they would even contemplate such a thing?
3I understand ICE has a problem storing the children they’ve kidnapped. Well, let me help the ICE minions. The following camps are available: Topaz, Poston, Granada, Heart Mountain, Jerome, Manzanar and Minidoka. Yes they’re a bit musty after 80 years but places such as these are not forgotten.
Neither will you minions.
4In family law, the standard pretty well across all the States when dealing with children is that which is “in the best interests of the child.”
5Apply the Constitutional mandates of Due Process and Equal Protection and Keebler Sessions and Dotard Trump should be out in the cold (i.e. North Korea).
I trust someone is pursuing this avenue for emergency legal relief.
Presumably Sheriff Joe will be the warden — I mean director. He has plenty of experience.
6He can call on sheriff Arpiao for pointers
7For all those US Senators who said Jeff Sessions was a swell guy and voted to confirm him __________________! <—-deleted out of respect for Mama.
8Fisrt thing I thought was, is he going to put Arpaio in charge? Cruelty comes easy for sheriff Joe. Take a bunch of tertified kids ripped from their parents and put them out to bake in the sun. I’m sure Atty Gen sessions will love it. Cruelty doesn’y bother him either.
9This ideas is so wrong in so many ways it’s multi-dimensional wrong!
10In less than two years, Trump and his band of fellow sadists have turned our country into the shame of the world.
What are we going to do about it?
11Fisrt thing I thought was, is he going to put Arpaio in charge? Cruelty comes easy for sheriff Joe. Take a bunch of tertified kids ripped from their parents and put them out to bake in the sun. I’m sure Atty Gen sessions will love it. Cruelty doesn’t bother him either.
12There is a place in Hell for those who separate children from their families and put them in appalling conditions……..impeachment is too good for those responsible.
13@ lunargent
141. Complain loudly to Congresscriiters.
2. VOTE!
3. Help others do so.
What a wonderful idea (NOT). I spent 2 months in Fort Bliss, summer of 1968. It is in the desert, and hotter than hell and we were warned constantly about Gila monsters, scorpions, snakes, and other poisonous things. And in 2 months I only got caught in one sand storm which I survived only because we managed to get into an empty bus in a motor pool parking area.
It was over 90 degrees at night inside the barracks so I cannot imagine putting children in large dark green tents during the day. Of all the dumbass ideas, this rates up around the top of bad ideas. Nice large tent city in the midde of the desert, great way to avoid having pesky congresscritiers visiting and a convenient way to dispose of the bodies.
15A suggestion for tomorrow evening, if any of these are near you.
https://map.familiesbelong.org/search.php
Also check your local Indivisible groups. This is criminal. Kids are going to die!
16If Arpaio is busy running for Congress (he’ll get to the bottom of Obama’s birth certificate!) there’s always David Clarke. At least one prisoner died of dehydration in his jail.
To quote Charles Pierce, “These really are the f*ing mole people.”
17If you think that jeff or donnie might consider the humane thing to do, forget about it. They ain’t white and they are certainly not rich.
18Sing after me, everyone! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3djI0pIfLsM
19Fran you are so right, there is a place for these people. Let’s ask the Japanese/Americans how it felt !
20This is nothing less than S tate sanctioned murder of little children. Are they going to start shipping them around in trains too? The veneer of civilization seems to have become very thin indeed in these United States. Is it time for a revolution yet?
21This is inhumane and criminal. In the supposed land of freedom and justice for all, this shameful.
I hope other 1st world nations and the United Nations won’t be silent about this.
22It’s not torture.
23It’s enhanced survival.
Whether or not Orange and jeffie plan to staff the hell hole with humane folks……..they are gonna have to pay staff to look after the kids…yes? Or will this be Lord of the Flies in the desert?? So isn’t it cheaper, in addition to more humane and all around sensible, to leave the kids with the parent/adult they came with? Wowza. The thugs are working overtime to avoid being sensible or law abiding. Dang, soooo much energy expended on dumbassery. I reckon this is why human rights fell off the N Korea meeting agenda.
24This is what happens when you start thinking that “those people” aren’t really human.
I’m trying very hard to resist the temptation to think that the ones who aren’t really human are Trump, Sessions, Arpaio, etc.
25It’s hot. We hit 110F out at Camp McGregor in the summer. The tarantula migrations across the desert are interesting to watch in the Fall. Then the rattlesnakes are everywhere. Found one curled up in my office one morning. It was looking for someplace cool. Since this is the desert, the temperature can fall rapidly and extremely as the sand does not retain heat well in the night so it’s possible to go from hyperthermia into hypothermia in less than 12 hours. Oh, and not a bit of water. But the roaches are everywhere and they kill off the scorpions so that’s a good thing. I forgot, the black widows… What could possibly go wrong in an isolated place like that with 1-5000 children living in tents?
26What tata says.
Going from draft dodger to war criminal is a tiny step for someone of Trump’s moral character.
27If you want change get out and vote. Vote in all of your local elections not just every four years for president. Do some research on the person running. More is being reported on CNN about a baby taken from a mother breast feeding. What is ICE and CBP qualifications for employment? Who is profiting for these so called detention centers?
28I really thought that as a nation we were better than this, that we had learned from the past. I guess I was wrong.
29Only took 12 hours to be able to type anything Mama respectable about Sessions, Donnie and anyone involved with this flagrant child abuse and act of aggression toward decent human standards and applicable laws. That anyone would even ‘think’ this is nauseating. That those attached to Dotard45 and his maladministration would actually speak those words, then implement such a monstrous policy challenges all the evil done by Hitler, Idi Amin and every criminal dictator known to history.
Lunargent, thank you for the link and the suggestions. The least we can do is to offer shelter at our ranch for the children and their families, until their asylum hearings. Trust us, no one will be taken from the ranch, unless they are accompanied by an immigration attorney with certifiable bonafides.
30Who is looking after these children, making sure they are fed, bathed, etc. This is an abhorrent way to treat these innocent chidlren, already traumatized. No wonder Trump shied away from discussing human rights at his Photo Op. And when is the international court of law going to address this atrocity? I have a four year old grandson, whose mother is actually from Mexico, she is a citizen, but all l can think of is him being shoveled into one of these hells.
31Linda Phipps, we should all be worried. As expressed in the poem by Rev. Niemöller, “first they came…” Some of us worry more than others. I’m 3rd generation born & raised here; Jane’s family has been here many generations. Our boys have my height & build, and luckily Jane’s lighter coloring and intelligence. But I’m Jewish with a distinct Mediterranean hue, I probably wouldn’t pass their freaky standards, especially with riding the range in the summer. We don’t want our boys to ever experience me being dragged off, or what could even happen to them with a summer tan the direction Dotard45 and the maladministration are taking this country.
Again, I defer to Rev. Niemöller. The time to stop this absurdity is now, before that ugly chapter of history repeats.
32I don’t see any difference between this and selling children away from their slave momma pre Civil War. Evil Elfin Oafin probably thinks this is a return to the good old days.
33“Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.” Patrick Henry could not have envisioned the evil our country could exhibit, but there must be an uprising of all good men and women to stop this atrocity. Even if these children survive this inhumane treatment, they will be forever scarred by it. It’s time for the Freedom Riders to ride again.
34A canvas prison? Just watch the XXXtians rear up on their hind legs and defend this, calling it a “great educational camping experience” that these same kids could not possibly find where they come from inasmuch as their countries are so poor and ignorant. This is SO WRONG! Manzanar should have proved that long, long ago. SCOTUS, where the hell are you!
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