Pray For Paul, Y’all
Somebody please send Paul Ryan a hand basket. He’s gonna need it for the ride.
Referring to the GOP’s Tax bill, the House Chaplin prayed …“May all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle,” Conroy said at the time. “May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.”
Ryan fired him immediately, saying, “Padre, you just got to stay out of politics.”
In other words, “Yes, Father, there is no morality or decency left in politics and we’d like you to keep it that way.”
I hear that Ryan is looking for a priest from the Pious Sanctuary Church of Gordon Gekko.
Sad that the freedom to pray and worship is now being attacked by sos’ like Ryan and his ilk.
1Congresswoman Kaptur (D-OH) thinks Ryan may have violated House rules by asking the Priest to resign.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/385140-dem-lawmaker-looking-into-whether-ryan-violated-house-rules-by-forcing-out
2Oh, and Ryan has my “thoughts and prayers”
3And then there was a big hoo-ha about whether the replacement should be Catholic or not. And we know whoever it is is never going to be Jewish or Muslim or Unitarian or agnostic or atheist. It’s always going to be divisive. Why don’t we let members of Congress go to their own preferred spiritual advisor if they choose to have one and…
Okay, I almost typed “get Congress out of the religion business,” but that would take a lot more rope and a much bigger team of horses than I have. Still, it would be a start.
4Rhea I so agree, maybe the whole idea of a Chaplin should be done away with. Sorry for ending the sentence with a preposition. Maybe a moment of silence will do, you could pray or just think.
5Rhea I’m with you on doing away with the Chaplin. We’ve all seen historically how religion and its influence in government has never ended well.
6Rhea, it doesn’t solve the non-promoting-of-religion problem, but Fr. Conroy has invited others to lead invocations, and at least one of those invitees adhered to Islam. He may have yielded the pulpit to an atheist in recent memory too-but I may be confusing that w a Statehouse somewhere…
7Rhea, I was wrong, it was only some State legislatures-not Texas, of course. One was Iowa! I don’t know why they waste their time, it’s all for show…their only God is Mammon.
8Wow, Speaker Ryan is such a good Catholic (thin skinned hypocrite).
I don’t know how Ryan can muster the energy to “abuse the help” when the his opponents and the MSM are essentially saying the same thing. Perhaps because it came from one of the few persons he (theoretically) should mind, and directly shamed Ryan’s (indeed most of the Republican establishment) actions in getting *anything* meaningful done in 45’s first year in office.
POTUS, Senate, and House are under the control of *one* political party, and they are so bad at governance, they make a *tax cut* that Ryan’s chaplain condemned as immoral and antithetical to the American Way.
Here’s to moral leadership…
9Frankly, the padre was a burnt offering made by a miserable little squeak of a man on behalf of even more miserable squeakers. The padre shared his pulpit so to speak with people somebody didn’t like. The prayer on behalf of the poor and marginalized was just barely the last straw!
10I had a Catholic priest friend who was confronted by a parishioner, stating that he was tired of the priest making the Mass political because during he always prayed for the poor and hungry. He responded: “To celebrate Mass and NOT make any mention of the poor and hungry is ALSO a political statement.”
11I have never thought much of people who spell chaplain as if it was Charlie Chaplin. Come folks, you are more intelligent than that.
12Richard, oops… I did that too! I will be careful from now on. Thank you for correction i hate to be incorrect in spelling.
13I was patrolling the channels on the “talking box” last nite and flashed past a sign that said “Repeal….Replace……Ryan”. Even if he is already leaving, I don’t think you get to pack up common decency in the first box to leave your office. Or maybe “lil paulie” needs the congressional paycheck until he can take his part in the Addams Family remake. I’m just sayin
14I didn’t read anything in the chaplin’s prayer that Jesus might find fault with. I guess in this case, the chaplin’s not preaching to the choir. Preaching to the liar? (to borrow Trump’s nickname, Lyin’ Ryan)
15The controversy over the firing of House Chaplain Patrick J. Conroy made its way to the floor on Friday, as House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joseph Crowley offered a privileged resolution Friday to establish a select committee to look into Speaker Paul D. Ryan’s firing of the Jesuit priest.
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., offered a motion to table the resolution, which was agreed to, 215-171, with three voting present .
At least two Republicans, Reps. Tom Reed of New York and Patrick Meehan of Pennsylvania, joined Democrats in voting against the motion to table. GOP Reps. Dave Joyce of Ohio, Thomas J. Rooney of Florida and Scott Taylor of Virginia voted present.
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-floor-erupts-chaplain-controversy
16idcirco eum Idcirco eum cum universis complicibus, fautoribusque suis, judicio Dei omnipotentis Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti, et beati Petri principis Apostolorum, et omnium Sanctorum, necnon et mediocritatis nostrae auctoritate, et potestate ligandi et solvendi in coelo et in terra nobis divinitus collata, a pretiosi Corporis et Sanguinis Domini perceptione, et a societate omnium Christianorum separamus, et a liminibus sanctae matris Ecclesiae in coelo et in terra excludimus, et excommunicatum et anathematizatum esse decernimus; et damnatum cum diabolo, et angelis ejus, et omnibus reprobis in ignem aeternum judicamus; donec a diaboli laqueis resipiscat, et ad emendationem, et poenitentiam redeat, et Ecclesiae Dei, quam laesit, satisfaciat, tradentes eum satanae in interitum carnis, ut spiritus ejus salvus fiat in die judicii.[2]
In English:
Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive him and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgement.
Ring the bell.
Close the Book.
Snuff out the candle.
FIAT, FIAT, FIAT.
17Brother Paul treads close to the line.
@Cole #17:
Thank you for posting that… passage(?). Does it have a name?
18It’s from the Pontificale Romanum, this the formal liturgical rite used by a Latin Rite bishop for excuminication. It was drop after Vatican II.
19I’m not sure excommunication is enough in the case of The Cowardly Ryan. Do you have an exorcism handy?
20Paul Ryan is the kind of Christian who makes me hope there really is a literal Hell. Of course I am also a fan of actual Old Testament retribution. You know boils, being struck by lightning or turned into stone. I would like to see it.
21Think I’ll ‘turn the other cheek’.
22Paul can figure out his own salvation.
Besides if that is where he is going, we will probably never meet!
Sojourners has a great, and I do mean GREAT, article on what the snacilbupeR have done to evangelicalism in America. (It applies to Christianity in general too.) It’s the text of a speech given by the president of Wheaton College, the “Evangelical Harvard,” to evangelical leaders. The man is really heartbroken by what’s happened. Seriously, you should read it. Seriously. (That entire issue of the magazine ought to rolled up and stuffed up Lyin Ryan’s . . . nevermind.)
https://sojo.net/articles/crisis-evangelicalism
23AliceBeth, I think some boils or (better yet) lightning would do Ryan a world of good, but I have one request: Mitch McConnell goes first, please. He’s really earned it.
24Inconsistent beliefs within Christianity fantasy world.
25Unsure of accuracy of my memory/ knowledge but shouldn’t,t we be hearing of the false savior that is to precede the return of magic man.
The one who would mislead the delusional with vice and a golden calf?
Sounds like demented Donnie to me.
Seduced the fantisist’s with visions of power, wealth and supremacy
Weak as my bible knowledge is this seems uncomfortably close to prediction but then again could be a self, purposeful effort to fulfill mythical ritual of world destruction
Despite my skepticism about the entire christian religion, I had little objection to having a congressional chaplain. What gets my panties in a twist is that there actually IS a religion committee in congress.
26Cole, nice going! Hadn’t seen that much Latin in 50 years! Ever check out the ceremony that goes with the words? The candle isn’t just “snuffed out” with a little birthday cake candle blow. Candle or even candles are thrown down in disgust on the floor or the ground, wick first so it kisses dirt. Then the participants walk away in the dark. Ten to one Paulie doesn’t know diddly about this ritual. Shame, isn’t it!
27@maggie, @Cole: Your posts reinforce the necessity of community as the strength of morality. In this case the community is The Church, but when pink feline hats are streaming through the streets, perhaps it is “more of the same”.
Your community is saying to change; either act accordingly, or leave…
28Re # 25
29The anti christ that christianist fantasist’s are always babbling about when a d is in office.
Sorry just couldn’t remember used wrong nomenclature.
A bit like forgetting the correct Klingon word.
Requiescat in pace, Paul Ryan. You’re dead and gone.
30The padre told the truth to power, but there would be no talk of the poor in the Congressional Republican greedfest.