So Jeb! Thinks Shame is The Best Birth Control?
Okay, so here’s Jeb!, the Republican, and he has this teen sex thing all figured out.
One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame. Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct. Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior.
You mean like Sarah Palin and Bristol?
Goodness sake, I haven’t heard that argument since Dan Quayle tried it against Murphy Brown. It didn’t work then and it probably won’t work now.
Yeah, what this country needs is more shaming girls. And children. Those illegitimate children need to be rounded-up and have a Bush finger shook in their little faces. Maybe Jeb! could hire his brother to do the little “tsk, tsk” thing. I mean, face it, he’s had lots of experience with ridicule.
I guess sex education and the availability of contraceptives are second rate compared to public humiliation, or Jeb! would have suggested that.
Thanks to Rocky for the heads up.
If shame and stigma effectively controlled behavior then there would be no candidates in the Repub primary.
1Oh, LynnN! Suh-nap!! Right IN their faces!!
2Mathematically speaking, we sperm manufacturers can impregnate several women 365/366 days a year for many years. Shouldn’t Jeb(?) be shaking his stigma finger at men?
3Well, this is guaranteed to pull Exclamation Point’s poll numbers right up.
4Personally, I think that someone in your post should be wearing a “Scarlet A”. Can you guess who I think the “Big A” is in this situation?
5😀
Even though his assessment of more teens getting preggers OOW is totally untrue! Teen pregnancy rates have reached HISTORIC LOWS, at least according to the CDC and Guttmacher Institute. True to his heritage, this Bush is factually challenged, devoid of empathy and manufacturing a crisis where there isn’t one.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/17/3/gpr170315.html#chart1
If he cannot feel shame, how can he speak to its ability to alter behavior? Oh, hell, I forgot. He’s a Bush. He just makes it up as he blunders along. Thank the heavens that the public is finally hip to their con. But who’d have ever thought, much less believed, that W. could be the smart one? What a pack of conniving bastards!
6PKM-I was fixed in 1982 and can’t have more children. Why do you slut shame me? 🙂
7e platypus onion, don’t feel bad. My alley cat potential will be fixed after the birth of our second child. It always baffles me when the ignorant Bush types think pregnancy is some sort of immaculate conception or however their pretzel logic takes them to blaming only the women. Those deep “thinkers” just never take their theories to the logical conclusion of what would happen if all women used abstinence as their birth control method. You and I figured that one out, which is why you are fixed, and I soon will be.
8I think that sexism comes from men being unable to feel capable of satisfying a woman sexually. They seem to be very ignorant and fearful of women. That is sad. Women are wonderful.
9Rthugs use their personalities as birth control.
10Gee, why don’t we just pillory women in the middle of the town square like the good old days? And Jeb! can play the part of the village idiot.
11Another factually challenged Bushbaby! Who knew? This one is not the smarter brother–he is the court jester. Babs was right the first time. We definitely don’t need/won’t get another Bush in the White House.
12I double dog dare you to try and shame el Pistola Braylin about anything,but especially why god keeps knocking her abstinence only body up.
13PKM-my V was a Valentine’s Day present fot the little lady. She and I agreed one of us should be fixed. I volunteered and within a year she had packed up the chillen and left. I am celebating nearly 33 years of her leaving and our not getting back together.
14Thus sayeth someone with a helluva lot of dough and too damn cheap to support so many good ideas such as sex ed, birth control, etc. I tell ya, some of these Rethugs make Scrooge look good!
15In all fairness, Jeb dissed the young males, too, for taking off when the girls get pregnant. I guess their mamas didn’t raise ’em right, or something.
16Yeah, just think back to those good old days of shame and stigma and how well they kept the young and unmarried from having sex.
17Rabblerouzzer: Your point is well-taken. We must remember that the R-Klan never lets facts get in the way of their ill-considered ideas. And not only is the teen pregnancy much lower, the death rate of women from botched, back-alley abortions is practically nonexistant. But that doesn’t make a dent in the republican mindset. Shame, fear and death from the people who brought you the Iraq War and the Recession.
18I remember Dan Quayle talking about Murphy Brown–it was hysterical because Quayle clearly had no idea who Murphy Brown was or that she was a fictional character. But, facts–who needs ’em if you are a Republican?
19It seems to me that people who advocate large doses of shame are generally those who feel it the most, for totally justifiable reasons.
Comment #1, LynnN, was perfect!
20Back in JEB:(‘s good old days, teenagers still had sex and got pregnant. Because of the “shame and stigma,” they often got married, which led to a lot of lousy unhappy marriages and then divorces. Not a great solution either.
If they really wanted to cut down on teen pregnancy and abortion, they’d promote long-lasting birth control. But nope, they’d rather use shame and stigma.
21Nobody listens to Jeb! – especially not Bristol Palin. She’s so unashamed that now she’s up to two little barstewards. But at least Boyfriend #2 has filed for joint custody in Alaska.
22I left “Xianity” for many reasons, the final straw being attending a “loving” church that was so full of hate that they literally walked a young girl who was with child around the congregation and made her apologies to the members for “SHAMING” them. The young father was no where to be seen.
23(Just sowing some wild oats–boys will be boys)
I blame Hugh Hefner who just said recently “that no one had ever lived his lifestyle before”, his “Play-boy” life. I thought he was so wrong…Emperor Nero used to have his men comb the
warrens of Rome for “pearls” the beautiful girls the ghettos sometimes throw up, then when he was done with them, they were given to the troops to use. Those bastions of “family values” seem to always have a hidden “pearl” somewhere, or sequential wives…very few adult men, lots of lustful teenage 65 year old “playboys” with lots of money and power.
OldMayfly –
Yeah, in my ideal world, Murphy Brown would be real, and Dan Quayle would be fictional.
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