Religious Prosecution? Maybe He’s On To Something.

November 28, 2013 By: Juanita Jean Herownself Category: Uncategorized

Well, Ted Cruz sent out his Thanksgiving message.  You might enjoy it.  Click the little one to get the big one.

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Second paragraph.  Yet, somehow it seems so right as a Tea Party goal.

Thanks to Marge for the heads up.

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39 Comments to “Religious Prosecution? Maybe He’s On To Something.”

  1. Calvin Coolidge is cited: “…We ought to be a most generous people.” Think Coolidge would have voted to cut SNAP benefits?

    Happy Thanksgiving to you and your Juanita Jean, and may all your readers have full tummies today and every day.

  2. Bernard Terway says:

    Yep, I guess he had this written for him because he certainly does not believe in the words of Calvin Coolidge. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

  3. Ellen Childress says:

    I don’t think the pilgrims or Calvin Coolidge could have envisioned Black Friday aka almost black Thursday with tents lined up at certain stores in order for the occupants to be first in line to buy, buy, buy.
    But in order for the corporations to buy our government, the consumers have to buy their products. We generously support our own destruction as a democratic republic. Selfie is not just a portrait of oneself for show, it is a whole concept of mean-spiritedness and self-centeredness carried to an extreme. Ted Cruz is the poster child. He writes a nice letter, but anyone can do that. The words one writes to pander to the public and the words one lives by are two entirely different things for Mr. Cruz. Cutting SNAP benefits is just one way the “selfies” in Congress have of showing themselves off. Cute, aren’t they?

  4. I bet he didn’t even write the letter. The spelling is too good.

  5. Generosity, GENEROSITY? Ted Cruz does not have a clue to the meaning of that word. He has no idea about liberty either.

  6. Calvin Coolidge was famous for not saying much. Would that Ted Cruz lived by his example…

  7. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    Prosecution, persecution, proof reading; mulch-syllabication or 30 reasons you need to stockpile aluminum foil, to help keep the Tea Party in tin foil hats.

  8. I never really understood this idea that we have to be christian because some people who wrote some documents a few centuries ago were christian.

    If we are limited to the religious opinions of the founders, are we really free?

  9. A comment about Calvin Coolidge was foremost in my mind as well. Ted Cruz obviously didn’t read this thing before he sent it out.

  10. Marge Wood says:

    Having barely scraped by in all my history classes while growing up, could y’all explain to me, other than the fact that Coolidge was famous for being quiet, what else was he famous for? And, contrary to the beliefs of the Tea Party, a lot of the Founders were not Christian. I’ve had this shoved at me from every angle. The Founding Fathers did what they did so you could be free to choose your beliefs. They KNEW what it was like to live where certain religions were part of the government and didn’t want it to happen in the USA.

  11. Marge Wood says:

    Okay, which Texans are going to write to Cruz about this letter? or should we just let everyone giggle behind our hands?

  12. Let me get this straight: Teddie Cruz, a self-serving, self-important, egocentric political hack, claims to agree with the idea that we should live freely — or at least all of those of us who are not women of child-bearing age? Or not middle-class or lower? What a guy!

  13. Marion (formerly known as MM) says:

    I like how he wrote about religious “prosecution” instead of persecution. He must not have fed his proofreader today.

  14. oh, shucks. Is Tedster ever going to have his non plussed when he finds out that there were two equally big fat reasons why the Pilgrims left Holland: yes, they wanted to have their own form of worship without competition or “tolerance” from the locals but they also wanted to make money and they really couldn’t do it in Holland in a society that was way ahead of them in technology and intellectual development. They opted for the non-competition of the New World. That was their idea of liberty and freedom. Non-compete.

    And thereby blows up another well developed “value” that has been flag-waved so often! No competition means dominance.

  15. Corinne Sabo says:

    Truth? The Puritans came for religious freedom for THEMSELVES only, not for everyone. Remember how Rhode Island was founded and why?

  16. The facts:

    The Thanksgiving Day Celebration Originated From a Massacre



  17. Shelly in damn Tyler says:

    That sumbitch attacked my t-damn-vee just as we were sitting down to eat (football game was starting). Glad my 9-year-old wasn’t here…it wasn’t pretty. I was already in a mood because the hubby had to work so we were eating at an odd time. Thankfully…I cooked the perfect meal, so I got over it quickly.

  18. “Freedom of conscience” implies that he has one. Ain’t necessarily so.

  19. The tedster seems to have forgotten that a mess o’ the Mayflower folks didn’t survive that year, but he may be remembering that all that “liberty and equality” back then pretty much applied to rich white dudes–just the sort of people he panders to now.

  20. You mean those illegal aliens that the local socialists took pity on, and showed them how to farm?

  21. Susan Glidden says:

    We did try a religious dictatorship at least once on this country. It was called the Massachusetts Colony. They exiled, or killed, people who were the wrong *kind* of Christians.

    This is a Wikipedia link, but the information is fairly accurate:

    The lessons of that failed theocracy were not lost on the people who wrote the Constitution.

  22. Marge Wood says:

    Laughing. Listening to the dish washer running through the quiet. Y’all are the best entertainment and nobody has to keep score.

  23. My problem is the third paragraph. He conflates the Mayflower compact, a contract among the passengers on the Mayflower, with a real governing document – the Constitution and the Bill of Rights – neither of which he wishes to enforce

  24. Marge Wood says:

    Maggie, you gave me a new insight. You reckon all those folks who don’t want nobody where they can see their houses are big into non-competition? I think I’ll go read the new Amy Tan novel, or at least make a stab at it.

  25. Maggie, Corinne, and Susan already said what I was going to say about the religious intolerance of the Pilgrims. Some people who believed just a little bit differently had to flee for their lives to Rhode Island.

    But the first thing– I don’t see a lot of senators’ stationery, but I believe Ted has put his name in what’s called “Second Coming type” because it’s that big. I’m not a bit surprised. He already struts around like his mother was a virgin.

  26. Ralph Wiggam says:

    I second the comments of Susan G. and Rhea. The pilgrims came here for religious superiority not religious freedom. In fact religious freedom was outlawed in Plymouth Colony.

  27. Ah, yes, the Mayflower Compact, wherein the signatories affirmed their loyalty to King James. Ted’s knowledge doesn’t include spelling (prosecution, persecution — what, there’s a difference?) and it obviously doesn’t include history either. Well, now that I mention it, Ted and “knowledge” really have no acquaintance at all, do they? I don’t even want to think about his “generosity,” but I bet he ate a lot more than he needed to today.

  28. This is fascinating! I’ve always been interested in type fonts but you can google second coming type and find all sorts of stuff about typography. I mean, folks get paid money, the kind you can spend, to pick the right fonts for books. I didn’t take the time to research Cruz’s type font but he does belong to a religious group that Has a Plan. Well, at least they’re honest, if a bit eccentric. They intend to run the world. They’ve got the various categories divided up and Teddie’s papa told him he (Ted) would be one of the rulers or some big wig job in their new world. Just for fun, I googled Second Coming type set and Dominionism. I found a very concise article by Chris Hedges about these Dominionists with a big photo of Ted Cruz at the top. If your dishwasher’s running and the house is quiet and all that’s left to do is clean up the big pots and pans, you probably would have more fun researching this.

  29. I didn’t know that Canada celebrated Thanksgiving.

  30. Grin, Zyxomma, we like us too! Thanks for being in our company!

  31. Canada’s Thanksgiving is in October.

  32. yet another baby boomer says:

    Misspellings, non-comprehension of a quote he chose, faulty analysis of historical content. So much for that Ivy League education.

  33. “But in order for the corporations to buy our government, the consumers have to buy their products.”
    @ellenchildress, that is one perfect sentence. You have summed up why I feel even more uncomfortable with the “Holiday” shop-shop-shop hoopla as the years progress.
    (I refuse to buy anything labeled “Must Have” even if it is something I actually need.)
    Several clients of the WMDBS have pointed out that even those passengers on the Mayflower who emigrated for religious reasons went on to forbid any religious practice than their own.
    I have another little wrinkle for you:
    The Mayflower settlers carried with them a charter granting them a portion of lands in northern “Virginia” which at that time would have meant present day NYC area. “Virginia”, however, was pretty firmly Church-of-England-loyal-to-King-James territory.
    The usual story in the history books is that the poor Pilgrims were blown off course by autumn storms and had to make do with rocky Massachusetts.
    Many historians believe that the Mayflower knew perfectly well it was headed off course and actually intended to land north of the “Virginia” border so that their new colony would not be subject to Virginia laws. By landing in a place where the terms of their charter would not apply the Plymouth settlers were free to run the joint as they liked–at least until someone took the first charter back to England and came back with a new one. They took their time doing this.

  34. Angelo_Frank says:

    Another message from Ted (Rafael) Cruz, adherent of Christian Dominionism.

  35. It has also been pointed out, d-mned University of Chicago staff, that the Mayflower compact had no authority and the Pilgrims were 200 miles north of their colony and in the area of another colony, which already had its own compact.

  36. Warner et al, on top of that, the Mayflower Compact was only supposed to be capital T totally temporary!!! It was deliberately written to sunset itself. Note to Tedster: Our Constitution is light years different from that charter. The comparison, if there can be one, is in Supreme court terms, vague. The big noise over the Mayflower Compact is really over the fact that a small, insignificant group of people, and protesters at that, had this idea and implemented it at a certain time in history. Some folks might call it a crack in the wall.

  37. The irony of this message is off the charts. I had a good laugh over it, but then I did have some wine before I read it.

  38. Bless his peapickin’ little heart. Now, Ted ol’ son, let’s see if you understand the word “generous” and quit bein’ such a meanminded, grasping, arrogant, pigheaded SOB…

  39. I like to retread “1491” at this time of year, and a 70’s controversial book called “Camp of the Saints” which is a novel about the end of the Western world–everything, just by the numbers, is changing and there is little understanding of just how impact full the changes will be…talking with an immigrant (Russian/Estonian) over Thanksgiving–we both came to the conclusion that the only thing that was needed was love…when I heard the Dali Lama speak, he said “Western women will save the world…” I have often pondered this–if a woman who has born children in tight economic times, becomes a leader (go Wendy!) would she be compassionate, full of concerns for all children–as we would hope to be if we were in charge…His story is full of death and war, always the women left to bind it up and keep the plot moving forward…just full of wonder at this season of light and gratitude. Happy Thanksgivakkah!
    Had my family in stitches –I hope it shows it correctly…