Numbers
I’m not a big poll watcher. Unless, of course, I agree with them and this one I do.
Politico says ….
Forty-three percent of voters want Congress to begin impeachment proceedings, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, up from 38 percent last week.
Let me say two words that might change their minds: Mike Pence. First, it is creepy the way he always smiles at Trump when Trump is talking crazy crap.
Second, he calls his wife “Mother.” I do not know if he shouts out that word during sex. Nor do I want to know. If you try to tell me, I’m gonna put my fingers in my ears and sing Careless Whispers at the top of my lungs.
Third, he is not allowed to have dinner alone with a woman who is not his wife. What kind of weirdo is this guy? Tom Jones?
Fourth, theocracy ain’t a big jump from calling your wife Mother.
Fifth, he does not believe in evolution, Medicare Part D, public schools, or that smoking kills people. He does, however, believe in tax cuts. And Citizen’s United, which he said, “Freedom won today in the Supreme Court.”
Sixth, you put and Paul Ryan in the same room and democracy dies a brutal death while pounding on the door to get out.
Seventh, and you thought Trump was bad? Oh hell, he’s just the warm-up act for the antiChrist.
I’m not fond of Mike Pense. However, to save your from spending all day reading this, I will skip to Eight hundred and twenty second.
Eight hundred and twenty second, while governor of Indiana, he tried to start a state government run daily newspaper distributed all over the state and competing with other newspapers, you know, like Pravda. He even picked an editor for it.
Mike Pence, not my favorite guy.
Surely Mikey Dense has enough baggage left behind in Indiana to warrant his resignation before Dolt45 is impeached. Albeit that still leaves us with the remaining detritus in the current line of succession.
1OK. Let’s see now . . . Trump goes but Pence doesn’t last long either. His well established policy of who the hell he has dinner with is killing him politically and financially as donations to the party have really dropped cuz he can’t go to fund raisers where he would certainly meet single women who are also eating. I think that the last time I ever heard a married male refer to his wife as “mother” was Judge Hardy in the old Andy Hardy movies. And even that didn’t last long!
2He is evil……wants coal mining again in Southern IN and took away air monitors in the most polluted county in IN……he is a total non caring christian unless it directly concerns votes for himself.
3I recall Nick Charles ( William Powell) refer to Myna Loy as Mother in their Thin Man movies. I always thought a bit freaky myself. In my world if the father of my children wanted something conveyed to me it was ” go tell your Mother” not “tell Mother”. That is how I grew up too. Still I think Mike Pence has to be a bit better than trump and his accomplices.
4Well to follow the Nixon model, which we seem destined to do, the Republican Party must get rid of Pence/Agnew first so that when Nixon/Trump has thrown literally everyone in his administration under the bus to save hisownself, the Republicans can appoint the House Majority leader to the Vice Presidency and then with an amenable VP, impeach and fire Nixon/Trump.
The current Gerald Ford is Kevin McCarthy. :{
5As odious as Pence is, he still has some governmental experience, and some slight acquaintance with sane behavior. That makes him 200% better than what we’ve got, now. The sooner impeachment hearings start, the better off we’ll all be.
6I agree with Micr on the Agnew/Nixon, but we should remember how that brought us Cheney and Rumsfeld.
7But… if Dems can mobilize and change the numbers in the Congress, well, maybe it won’t matter all that much who’s in the WH. So, yes, we have some work to do.
8Yes, Trump is so… Trump, I have such a hard time remembering the old adage, “be careful what you wish for.”
9So, we’ve prolly all had the “Trump vs Pence” debate. Kinda like the Marianne vs Ginger debate but with much more dire consequences and less actual chance of happening.
There is no way out of this hole the gops dug and pulled the rest of us into. Gop leadership has stood by everything Trump has said and done. The fact that they were staring down, kicking at the dirt and mumbling while they did it only proves that they will countenance anything this guy does or says.
They know, in their craven, askeert minds that Trump controls the biggest and most extreme faction of the party. That faction will never give up on Trump. The gop will follow this guy as far as he wants to go.
10Numbers don’t lie (unless it’s Trump’s crowd size).
11Any way you add it up, under Conservative Rule we are royally screwed.
Talk about being at the Gates of Delirium.
Rapture Ready or not?
i’ll take Pence. I really really hate these very very bad grifters and I want to see several perp walks. We’ve already got Pence anyway. It’s all bad.
12Jared is my prize.
My very Catholic family is from southern Indiana and my dearly departed uncle called my aunt “Mother” as a term of endearment because she birthed his five children. My uncle was not like Mike Pence in that he was not a Christian Dominionist (aka Supremacist). I left the Catholic church when they threw me out for being a lesbian decades ago, but I still know enough to know that those folks are bat-shit crazy.
There’s enough radioactive dirt swirling around the Russia scandal to take down the entire Rethuglican party leadership with allegations they have audio tapes of McConnell and Ryan (probably in separate conversations with others) discussing how to launder Russian money through their respective Super Pacs. Ryan got about $20 million, and McConnell, always a piker, got a measly $2.5 mil from his Russian oligarch.
We just have to demand that they all stand trial for treason.
Of course, that will bring us our first Mormon President, dullard Orrin Hatch, who could rival Harry Truman for the nation’s most boring President.
Mike Pence’s brothers-from-a-different-mother relationship with Eric Prince of Blackwater infamy alone should disqualify him for higher office, but the P-Grabber-in-Chief has so lowered the bar for acceptable, much less ethical, conduct that any old snake oil salesman can slither unnoticed through the halls of power with impunity. These guys won’t drain the swamp because they feed on it.
13“Second, he calls his wife “Mother.” I do not know if he shouts out that word during sex.”
Eeewwwww.
14I do believe supper will be skipped today, that Penceism is beyond disgusting..
It’s Pence, then Ryan, then Tillerson and on down the line in the cabinet. I can’t believe I’m thinking Tillerson is the best choice, but at least he might sorta believe in climate change.
15Get rid of pence first. Then get an independent VP. Oh say like Bernie Sanders. Then impeach traitor trump. Pence likes to murder LGBT people. He started the largest hiv epidemic in years when he forced closure of clinics. The CDC forced home to act cause evil unchristian pence was too busy praying to act to save lives. There isn’t fire hot enough in Tartarus for him for eternity.
16Please to remember the stylings of the much-missed James Briggs Stratton “Doghouse” Riley, an eloquent, jaundiced Indiana country boy who had an um, unparalled maybe? colorful? blog relationship with that state’s Republican politicians.
Back in Jan 2013, he limned Pence’s political career to date
17Well yes and no.
Assuming Pence survived his own investigation [into how he didn’t know about Flynn and Russia — after Yates told the transition team, of which he was the head, all about it — ummmm — what have you got to say to THAT, huh Mikey?] he does have one thing going for him, in my book:
I do not believe he would refuse to step aside if [when] his opponent wins the next election.
Nor would he refuse to step down after two terms [yeah, like THAT’S gonna happen] claiming that the system is rigged because the president shouldn’t be limited to two terms anyway. And what’s the big deal about having elections anyhow? We should just save the people the trouble of schlepping to the polls every 2 years [and ESPECIALLY every 4 years. They cost too much and refuse to pay their fair share, don’tcha know.]
All of which would be major sticking points with Trump.
18Saw the video on TV with the father from So. IN carrying his sick baby, a baby sick from the air pollution in the area which does NOT have any monitoring. And Pence still calls himself a Christian. Jesus weeps.
19One problem at a time. Trump has to go, then, Pence has to go.
20The fact that Pence will not eat alone in the presence of a woman, not his wife, speaks volumes to me. He doesn’t trust himself. Now he wants me to trust him. I think not.
21I know the bar is low, but I think I’d sleep better at night with Pence and without Trump awake at 3 a.m. planning strategy for when to push The Button. I wake up around 3 too and things look worse at 3 a.m. Maybe he’d like a nice embroidered thingy saying IT’S ALWAYS DARKEST BEFORE DAWN or LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP or PUTIE BABY, I NEED TO TALK. HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO GET TO OUR BOMB SHELTER AFTER I PUSH THE BUTTON? i MIGHTA ACCIDENTALLY PUSHED IT TOO HARD….
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