ZERO Fun With Guns

October 09, 2015 By: Juanita Jean Herownself Category: Uncategorized

Northern Arizona University this morning.  Texas Southern University at noon.

Yes, Texas Legislature, what this country really needs is more 18 year olds with guns on campus.

 

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  1. Susan on the Left Coast says:

    Sigh.

    JOPLIN, Mo. (AP) — 13-year-old boy fatally shot a 12-year-old girl

    CLEVELAND, Ohio — Boys, ages 7 and 12, arrested with stun gun, knife and Tec 9 semi-automatic on the way to school

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  2. The fatal shooting news comment threads are always a swan dive into fermented boiled bile filled hell.

    This morning’s murders gave us this comment:

    “I think we can thank a Democratic/progressive agenda that has created a class of victims that no longer believe they have any personal responsibility.”

    http://tinyurl.com/qjsn5w4

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  3. And this was the third shooting at Texas Southern within the last two months. Sad.

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  4. If Ronald Reagan was the Teflon President, the NRA is the Kevlar Organization. No matter how many shots are fired, the effect of those bullets bounce off gun nuts like empty peanut shells.

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  5. Annabelle Lee says:

    @Steven – that’s remarkable, considering they don’t listen to another damned thing we say.

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  6. JAKvirginia says:

    Rick: maybe because they aren’t taking the bullets! Have them play dodgeball with some flying metal and their tune will change. Y’see being stoopid the bullets have to actually hit them before they understand that might be an “Ow!” thing.

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  7. With apologies to secretarial and clerical staff, I can briefly contemplate what would happen if one of these commonplace mass shootings were to happen in NRA headquarters over in northern Virginia. Let’s say the shooting doesn’t start until the guy exercises his Second Amendment rights all over the major executives and decision makers. Would it be their fault for not “carrying” in their offices? Or maybe they do. Either way, better them than all the other people being gunned down as a sacrifice to their fantasies.

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  8. bud malone says:

    The position of the NRA is abundantly clear. Let’s move beyond them and zero in on the bought and paid for congress people who allow this to continue to happen. Legitimate gun owners could help develop reasonable legislation but that hasn’t happened.

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  9. Arizona shooter

    “We had just left a party and were standing in the street getting ready to walk home when a guy walked up with a pistol and just started shooting,” one witness told the Arizona Sun.

    Thank all the gods the killer is Caucasian. We won’t have to hear the usual spittle spraying suspects behind microphones scream about the thug his absent father spawned.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/gonnakillshit-instagram-posts-reveal-arizona-shooter-was-obsessed-with-himself-and-guns/comments/

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  10. Begonia Buzzkill says:

    FYI There is a fake NBC news site stating Obama issued an executive order making it illegal to name mass shooters.

    As if he didn’t have enough guns being locked and loaded for his visit to Oregon’s mass shooting: Washington Post has an article that President Obama may circumvent Congress and issue an executive order requiring expanded background checks for gun purchases from high-volume dealers. (Loop holes abound to assuage the nation’s savage beasts?)

    And, just in case the members in the cult of shoot to kill run out of fleshy target ideas, Huckabee, Congressmen Louie Gohmert and Steve King in tandem with a rabid Christian they revere, Theodore Shoebat, who preaches (as others are) “Anybody who refuses to Submit To Christianity Must be Put to Death” are starring in a film endorsed by Mat Staver, World Net Daily, David Barton, and Matt Barber.

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  11. @Michael: like I said in a previous post, investigate all scumbags who take pics of themselves posing with their guns as dangers to society. They should be involuntarily committed to a mental institution for at least 72 hrs while they get a psych eval. and their guns confiscated. They have to prove to the courts that they are sane enough to get their guns back.

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  12. Just read something in The Guardian by Dean Burnett on why there are more guns than people in this country. He does a pretty good job but I would like to add the following: guns are status symbols just like luxury cars, penthouses and yachts. If the Jones’s have two luxury cars, the neighbors just have to have twice to three times as many. You get the picture! Once poorly manufactured weapons start blowing up in people’s faces and maybe even killing them, then you will see some action. Its all the gun’s fault! Damn them manufacturers!

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  13. JAKvirginia says:

    Good point Maggie. It’s all about status. So maybe we change the image. We made smoking and bullying uncool. Let’s do it with guns.

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  14. One way smoking was made uncool was to abolish cigarette ads on TV. Unfortunately, gun violence is a TV constant and also imbedded in the video game culture used by everyone from 6 year olds on up. Smart parents avoid these traps for as long as possible, but there are far too many kids abandoned to screens from the get go. With irresponsible adults waving weapons around like trophies, it’s a losing battle. It’s so depressing.

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  15. Elizabeth Moon says:

    Display guns are status symbols. Strutting around town with your “I’m really macho” or “I’m a Daddy’s Girl” gun slung around your shoulder is a status symbol.

    But the kind of basic firearms–good quality but not fancy–that my grandfather sold in the hardware store are tools, useful for any reasonable farmer or rancher or person with some acreage. If your winter meat is deer, a deer rifle. If you’re a bird hunter, a shotgun. A varmint gun (a .22 rifle) for rabid raccoons and other obviously diseased wildlife, or for pesky stock-killing critters (including a neighbor’s sheep-killing dog that they refuse to keep penned because “he likes to run.”) A pistol or revolver for killing your own stock for food. A .22 is fine for sheep and goats; a larger caliber is better for dropping a horse or bovine with one shot. Tools, not toys and not status symbols.

    It’s not just the shootings that endanger the 2nd Amendment in its present form. It’s the irresponsible, arrogant pro-gun lobby that makes it clear nobody’s rights matter but theirs.

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  16. e platypus onion says:

    Sad historical fact is until recently it has been wingnuts blocking mental health coverages. Google it.

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  17. e platypus onion says:

    Sad historical fact is until recently it has been wingnuts blocking mental health coverages. Google it. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/republicans-mental-health-care-gun-control_n_2640166.html

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  18. As Elizabeth Moon said, basic guns used as tools are not the problem. I lived in rural areas a good part of my life and rarely heard of a farmer or rancher shoot another person, or accidentally shoot himself. It does happen, but less often than farm equipment injuries.

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  19. Old Mayfly says:

    Elizabeth Moon and Rick have posted just what I would have said. (Though maybe not as well.) My Dear One explained the distinction between “weapons” and “arms.”

    The Right-Wing supports the ownership of weapons.

    Guns as tools are arms, and that is a different mindset.

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  20. Old Mayfly says:

    I meant that I might not have posted it as well. Oops.

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  21. I recall a very smart looking but not extravagant S&W kept locked up as a tool to use such as when one of the horses had to be put down quick. I don’t think it ever saw the light of day. The horses were sold when the tractor was purchased.

    Another point Dean Burnett made: too many people read the “right to bear arms” as mandatory; i.e., mandated. Could I ask, how weird is that?

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  22. So they are saying that victims of unprovoked gun-terrorist attacks must take personal responsibility for getting shot?

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  23. screecherguy says:

    Reality is, Republicans think the fact that mass shootings will occur every x number of days/months is simply a fact of life, and, while unfortunate, it’s certainly preferable to restricting assault weapons and strengthening gun laws. That’s it. They’re willing to accept this. They know the entire country won’t arm itself, and they know the kind of cluster-debacle that would ensue if it did. The mass shootings are simply inconvenient, but worth it. That’s how they see it.

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  24. Hear the echos “Now is not the time to raise the question on the heels of a tragedy.”

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  25. Sam in San Antonio says:

    Anyone I find carrying on my campus, legal or not, gets reported. I have no tolerance for people with guns in public.

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  26. LynnN, you’ve got it right. Blaming the victim is the gun culture’s MO, which inspires ever more people to arm themselves for “protection”. Are we seeing the pattern here?

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  27. Aggieland Liz says:

    @Steven: the party of Personal Responsibility ™ is NEVER responsible!

    @Elizabeth Moon: I like the way you think! You are welcome at the Compound (my sister’s nickname for our place-HATES guns and votes Republican religiously, go figure) for dinner and drinks and saving-the-world anytime 😀

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  28. Elizabeth Moon says:

    Steven, thanks for this citation: “I think we can thank a Democratic/progressive agenda that has created a class of victims that no longer believe they have any personal responsibility.” http://tinyurl.com/qjsn5w4

    Because it pulled together a couple of things for me. First, that the GOP/conservative agenda has created a class of pro-gun shooters and owners who no longer believe they have any personal responsibility for what/when/how they shoot and how they store and maintain their guns. It’s never their fault.

    And that flashed over to the (obvious but I hadn’t thought it before) patriarchal attitude that they–the bossmen, the white men, the rich men–are never to be held responsible for what THEY do. They are fully entitled. Only women, and their subordinates, are to be held responsible. Women and little girls seduce men–men are powerless to control themselves, so women and girls must be controlled. Poor people, people of color, want too much, take too much profit–they’re a liability, not a resource. Rich men should not be required to control themselves or their appetites–it’s their employees and servants and “parasites’ who must be controlled, their appetite for anything–food, amusement, drink, etc–controlled. Thus it’s OK to underfeed prisoners, make it illegal to feed the homeless, want poor children to go hungry as an incentive, deny medical care to anyone not rich enough to afford it…because they have no right to want and need.

    So prostitutes are arrested; johns rarely are (“It would ruin MY family.”) Women who report harassment or abuse lose their jobs, or are demoted; the harasser or abuser rarely does (case in point: Geoff Marcy of UCLA Berkeley, a senior astronomer who, investigation agreed, had been sexually inappropriate with multiple female undergraduates & graduate students over the years…was told to quit doing it and his department chair said, among other things “this is hardest for Geoff…” and then asked for support for him. Not for the women he harassed and fondled and groped and humiliated, whose careers he limited (including the ones who spoke out and are now being seen as troublemakers.)

    Same with the gun-nuts. Blame the victims for “not taking responsibility” or “not resisting” rather than the shooter for shooting.

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  29. It’s not just guns, it’s semi and fully automatic ones that we have to have for the deer attacks. You know how dangerous those armed deer can be.

    Most, not all of these terrible attacks are by idiots using semi-automatics. We either get in an arms race with our neighbors, or severly reduce the number of multi-shot guns. We’re losing this race.

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  30. Linda Phipps says:

    Elizabeth Moon, you are my heroine, and your comment has touched my all the way to the marrow.

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  31. Cousin teaches at UT-Austin…says every student of his is going to get an “A” — he’s afraid to give lower grades.

    On a brighter note, there’s a cry for ‘open carry’ there…of dildos. Lovely picture of a bright pink one peeking out of a backpack. After all, if a gun is a sign of manhood, why not choose the right substitute.

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  32. Well said, Elizabeth Moon.

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