For Those of You Not on Facebook or Twitter

October 04, 2015 By: Juanita Jean Herownself Category: Uncategorized

Here’s what you’re missing —

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Thanks to everybody for the heads up.

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56 Comments to “For Those of You Not on Facebook or Twitter”


  1. At last! This amounts to common sense!

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  2. WA Skeptic says:

    Works for me!

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  3. RepubAnon says:

    That’s right up there with the finding that filling out a 1 page form unduly burdens the religious beliefs of Hobby Lobby, yet the various hoops a pregnant woman must jump through to exercise her constitutional rights do not constitute an “undue burden.”

    Hypocrisy – the core Republican belief system.

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  4. Aside from the sarcasm and illogical argument, I like the nuts and bolts of the “proposal” above…
    – 48 hour “cooling off” period, if one supposes a weapon purchase is an emotional, heat of the moment decision
    – parental permission. In the sense that weapon ownership should be limited to responsible adults.
    – note from “doctor”, an authority figure in the medical domain. The equivalent might be a written permission from local police or sheriff, who knows the applicant personally and has come acquaintance with their mental state.
    – video(s) that depict weapon usage and its aftermath graphically without the cartoonishness of Hollywood and video games
    – the ultrasound phrase is sarcastic and meritless, but requiring a mental health evaluation for weapon purchase and continued ownership is probably not burdensome
    – imposing state regulation of businesses which can legally sell weapons is likely legal and limiting such businesses to one per state is probably also legal. The result would be the same as that alluded to above, which is to limit total sales and concentrated sales into one geographic area. Say Marfa in Texas.
    – Having a wannabe weapon owner encounter those touched by previous gun violence is not IMHO burdensome either.
    – Having a wannabe weapon owner encounter those opposed to weapon ownership is also not IMHO burdensome.

    Private weapon ownership is a grave responsibility. As I have read TWMDBS posts DAILY of negligent discharges over time my opinion of private weapon ownership has changed dramatically. A huge percentage of armed Americans are not fit execute that responsibility. My concern now is how to disarm the un-fit ASAP and prevent their re-arming.

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  5. Sam in San Antonio says:

    “They can take my penis when they pry it from my cold dead hand.”

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  6. And a prostate exam by a medical person with large fingers.

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  7. Sounds excellent to me.

    Mike, large *cold* fingers.

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  8. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    Everything Miss Juanita Jean and the above comments have suggested.

    I would like to add an appeals process, where rejected applicants have the opportunity to have a finger wave appeal processed by a doctor and the weapon of their choice. Live rounds or finger guards optional.

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  9. AlanInAustin says:

    “What if gun laws were like abortion laws?”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/what-if-gun-laws-were-like-abortion-laws

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  10. What a great post.

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  11. This . . . .

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  12. Ole Scout says:

    What an excellent argument.

    This … is not an anomalous analogy. Admittedly we’re experiencing a rhetorical exaggeration … extended by further use. The application of both the analogy & the exageration is apt.

    Deadly weapons belong in the hands of those trained in their use AND THE APPLICATION OF THEIR USE.

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  13. Hollyanna says:

    What’s not to like about that proposal?

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  14. That Other Jean says:

    I like it. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, no?

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  15. Corinne Sabo says:

    Great idea. Non-invasive procedure.

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  16. SteveTheReturned says:

    Bullseye.

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  17. Ben Carson and his like minded in ilk now want to find out what is the common factor among the ammosexuals they spawn so they can predict which of them is an enthusiastic killer.

    The common factors: they got their guns legally and are open about their being motivated by right wing dog whistle bigotry and blatant propaganda.

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  18. Marcia in CO says:

    Yes, by golly, I posted this very item on my Facebook page yesterday and I swiped it from a friend’s posting.

    Make both male and female alike jump through the hoops to buy guns that males and females alike make women jump through trying to seek the healthcare they need!!

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  19. “the ultrasound phrase is sarcastic and meritless”

    no, really? picked right up on that did you? of course, the same almost requirement, in VA, was also meritless. no word yet on whether or not it was sarcastic.

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  20. bud malone says:

    An A+ comment.

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  21. A change.org petition is already accumulating signatures

    “We, the American people for gun sanity, demand that the Republican Party (GOP/ RNC) and National Rifle Association (NRA) “put up or shut up” about gun control. From this time forward, all Republican debates and National conventions MUST allow full open and concealed carry rights for every attendee.

    Every journalist, camera person, moderator, candidate and janitor must be allowed to carry any type of loaded firearm to all RNC/ GOP and NRA events, throughout the duration of those events.

    No background checks should be required, as the RNC believes that our laws are adequate. If the Republican party and NRA truly believe that guns make us all safer and more polite, then let them prove it.

    https://www.change.org/p/all-gop-and-nra-events-must-allow-open-and-concealed-carry

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  22. Larry from Colorado says:

    Like Marcia, I posted it again after seeing it yesterday.

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  23. Sounds fair to me.

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  24. George in Lee County says:

    I like the proposal, but there is a less draconian way to deal with the issue.

    How about making the purchase of a weapon just as difficult as it is in say, Houston, or most Texas towns around Houston, for a black person to register to vote?

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  25. JAKvirginia says:

    What’s good for the gander…

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  26. Marcia in CO says:

    Good for you, Larry in Colorado!! :0) LOL

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  27. There was a great meme on Facebook. “Make all gun owners carry liability insurance, and see how fast the insurance companies quash the NRA.”

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  28. Don’t forget that the young man should be required to pay out of his own pocket for any required medical or other procedures.

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  29. Ralph Wiggam says:

    I have previously advocated for requiring all gun dealers to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles and all gun shops should be equipped as surgical centers. It is necessary for the health of the customers.

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  30. One of the best posts yet. Everyone has good ideas. I signed TaDa!’a petition:

    https://www.change.org/p/all-gop-and-nra-events-must-allow-open-and-concealed-carry

    Such great ideas: liability insurance; intrusive physical exams; psychological tests; admitting privileges to local hospitals; personal payment for injuries; oh! the possibilities are endless.

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  31. Tom Richardson says:

    Susan – I saw an item online this morning, and I’m wishing now I’d saved it so I could source it for you. It suggested something Cecile Richards likely was thinking but chose not to say out loud to Mr. Chaffetz: “Planned Parenthood has dealt with problems of the breast and vagina for 77 years, and now we have to deal with assholes, too.”

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  32. Saw these online:

    “If supplying a cake for a gay wedding indicates participation in the marriage, what about selling a gun used in a murder?”

    “Guns don’t protect people. People do.”

    “How about laws that make it harder to shoot people and easier to vote?”

    Ah, here’s the one I was looking for.

    “Q. Can I carry a loaded gun in the gun show? I have a Concealed Carry Permit.

    “A. We respectfully request that you do not bring any loaded firearm into the gun show. Safety is our Number One Priority, and a safe environment in the show can only be maintained if there are no loaded guns in the show.”

    No ****, Sherlock.

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  33. Love this….I saw earlier today that my 22 year old (liberal, feminist) daughter had posted this on her Facebook. I try to keep mine apolitical, but had to post it as well. Too perfect. Awaiting nasty comments from the “friends” and relatives…..

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  34. two crows says:

    I saw this on Facebook today. The number of people who piled on to call it everything but treasonous was amazing.

    The number of people who felt compelled to go on and on about abortion – – also amazing.

    Just as if 10 people didn’t die in Oregon this week and two more just 16 months ago.

    Just as if 20 small children and 7 adults didn’t die in Sandy Hook Elementary School 2 years and 10 months ago [and how many since?]

    Just as if, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms weren’t used in 84,258 nonfatal injuries and 11,208 deaths by homicide, 21,175 by suicide, 505 deaths due to accidental discharge, and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with “undetermined intent”. In other words, 1.3% of all deaths in the country were related to firearms.
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

    But guns should be easy to get one’s hands on and abortion should be illegal.

    Yes – because life is sacred right up until the moment of birth. And one minute later, it’s everyone for her or himself.

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  35. two crows says:

    Thank you, Ta Da! Signed and posted on FB.

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  36. Does anyone here at the salon think it would do any good if we started calling gun deaths post-birth abortions? Me neither.

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  37. AliceBeth says:

    I do not wish violence against any human being (though actually there are some that would not really bother me). What would happen if someone burst into any gathering of rabid gun supporters and just started shooting? You know a gun show, an NRA meeting, the USCongress…any gathering of people who think that gun rights are more important than any other rights in this country but do not allow guns in their meetings. What do you suppose they would do?

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  38. I don’t know, this might give the anti-choice crowd the idea of requiring a mental competence test before “allowing” an abortion.

    Not that the NRA flying monkeys would allow such a restriction…

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  39. Polite Kool Marxist says:

    RA, how about we start calling gun deaths what they are – NRA and Congressional sanctioned executions? That is what they are, until we have effective background checks, waiting periods for purchase and a limit on firepower and magazine size. City ordinances and state laws do not good, when purchases can be made in other municipalities, other states, on the internet and at gun shows.

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  40. Treehugger says:

    We all know that the lives of people who aren’t born yet are far more valuable than the lives of people who have already been born, based on the legislation the Republicans have been pushing in Congress and state legislatures. 1 aborted baby = 10 born humans, or something like that, right?

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  41. *Snap*

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  42. Old Mayfly says:

    I read that the sheriff who responded to the Washington State junior college shooting is a Sandy Hook school massacre “truther.” Our society is full of gun irony.

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  43. Marcia, that teacher’s letter says it all. Thank you for posting the link.

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  44. PKM, yes. That’s exactly what they are. Unfortunately the rabid anti-abortion “people” are so one-dimensional I’m not sure they could understand the change in terminology or description. They don’t do irony either.

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  45. Linda Phipps says:

    One more to add: liability insurance.

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  46. penelope roberts says:

    totally brill!!!

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  47. e platypus onion says:

    And having guns is known to cause breast cancer and the NRA does not do Mammograms. And Medicaid funds can’t be used to pay for guns. And people who have had guns express remorse that they ever had guns.And……

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  48. Mary Beth says:

    I am all in on limiting gun purchases in any way possible. Just remember, we already have almost 1 per person so it might take a 100 years to get the death rate down. I’m willing to try anything to do it.

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  49. Mark Schlemmer says:

    This whole meme is EXCELLENT. I would like to copy and paste it into a number of other sites but on my Mac it doesn’t seem to work. It takes the whole file but only pastes the title. Is there any one who can save me the trouble of rewriting this for the purposes of sharing such an excellent thought? I also might make a flyer to hand out at gun rights rallies that Oregon seems to be full of lately. Anybody????

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