All New and Improved! Trumpcare!
Okay, so Trump is going to repeal Obamacare the day after he’s inaugurated. So, that means that the day after inauguration, 24 million people won’t have health insurance.
Of course, Trump can’t repeal Obamacare so his campaign promise is dumped in the lap of congress who, even though they tried to repeal it eleventy dozen times, has no clue what to replace it with.
Hell, they even met with Mike Pence about it and he didn’t have a clue either.
If you repeal it, you have to replace it with something. Republicans don’t have even a tablespoon of something.
After meeting with Vice President-elect Mike Pence on Tuesday to hash out plans to repeal Obamacare, top Senate Republicans are no closer to resolving an issue that’s splintering the GOP heading into the start of Donald Trump’s presidency: how long to give themselves to replace the law.
You’d think after four years of trying to burn down the barn, they’d at least have the field cleared for the new barn. But, no. They do not.
One suggestion that keeps popping up from their agenda is that they don’t replace Obamacare until after the 2018 mid term elections. That alone tells you how popular they know it is.
Other Republican argue that they have to do it right away because it’s zombie apocalypse, except worse.
This is gonna be fun to watch because they’ll fight with each other for a piece of the insurance pie and diddle squat will happen.
“One suggestion that keeps popping up from their agenda is that they don’t replace Obamacare until after the 2018 mid term elections. That alone tells you how popular they know it is.”
Sounds good. 2 years without insurance should make their poor, white voters ready to vote for the party that guaranteed them coverage in the first place.
1Unofficial and accidental spox for the snacilbupeR Party pRick Perry said it best, “oops.” Our man, yes it’s really his name, Dean Heller (R-NV) now wonders if using the Reconciliation Process allows for repeal and replacement in the same legislation. He could ask his Majority Leader, Mitch or not. Mitch has occupied a seat in the Senate and learned nothing. Or, ask Lyin’ Ryan; surely he could spit out two bills from his folder of blank pages.
2The problem they have is that Obamacare IS the Republican plan. Insurance companies and hospitals are not going to sit quietly by and watch their new revenues go away. Let loose the lobbyists!
3From the tips of your typing fingers to the ears of God, JJ.
4http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/Hospital-industry-warns-of-crisis-if-Affordable-Care-Act-is-repealed.html
5“If you repeal it, you have to replace it with something.” Um… no.
You repeal if you have no intention of replacing. Every law Congress passes has a mechanism for amending and revising, in part or in whole. Every law passed is usually a compromise after contentious political negotiations. If every law was repealed in order to modify it, the compromise battle would begin again. Government legislative action would grind to a virtual halt. Even the U.S. Constitution has that amending mechanism.
The Rs want to replace the ACA. Fine. Show me what you’ve got. Put up or shut up.
6“Repeal and wait.” What a great plan.
1] Repeal. But keep it in place. Wait, what?
2] Two years from now, after they’re safely back in office, the repeal goes into effect. Only — THEN WHAT?
And, of course, 2 years from now they’ll be in exactly the same place they are now. They STILL won’t have anything to put in its place and they’ll STILL be looking at an election 2 years later.
Meanwhile, this is Ryan’s plan. This is McConnell’s plan.
This most assuredly isn’t Chaffetz’ plan. Or Gohmert’s. Or Ernst’s. [Is she still there? I never hear of her doing anything — not even making a fool of herself. So maybe she’s out?]
These people want to burn it down NOW. Get rid of it and replacing it is nowhere on their radar – as in not never. They’re the “Let them eat cake” crowd, after all.
So here comes yet another civil war among the snacilbupaR.
To quote Mad King George III — “Jesus Christ this should be fun!”
7They’ll repeal it effective 2018 and spend 2 years blaming dems for obstructionism. It will probably work too.
8@ JAKvirginia:
“If every law was repealed in order to modify it, the compromise battle would begin again. Government legislative action would grind to a virtual halt.”
Which is exactly the point among the Froth-at-the-mouth crowd. They got elected on the premise that government is, in and of itself, contemptible. So burning it down is their intention. Period.
And, as David Gerson of the WaPo wrote:
“This is what Republicans get for devaluing the calling of public service. When you have contempt for politics, you often get a politics worthy of contempt.”
Oh Snap!
9Two years from now gives the wingnuts plenty of time to slander and libel HRC so no wingnut would ever vote for aDemocrat. Then they won’t care a thing about ACA.
10Whatever Republicans decide to do about healthcare, they have so far given no indication that any of their plans required brains to devise. So they will assume no one else has need of a brain either, and it’ll be safe to drop coverage from the neck up. That should result in substantial savings which Trump can then transfer into comprehensive breast care, including minimum size* standards. Placing women and their interests… (sorry…) out front in his new administration.
* Beauty pageant averages will apply
11Oh, the contortions of the spaghetti that is trying to stick to the wall with all of its al dente might! First it was Orrin Hatch’s plan but when Hillary took it to the Hill it got rejected by the R’s. Hatch actually did not like that. Then it was Romneycare in Massachusetts. Basically it comes very close to resembling the Kaiser Permanente plan.Damn! This care package has been reconstituted more often than frozen orange juice! Now the hospitals across the land have their dander up. A lot of them would have to cut way the hell back or even close up completely. Thats billions upon billions of $$ down the drain! And they are fighting mad! And its about time! Those clownish R’s never ever considered this, did they! Well, hell, considering something means thinking and that has pretty much been their short suit. They have no one to blame but themselves for the crack that has closed around their collectives asses!
12I guess the pale silver lining on the latest election is that there are so few Dems in power that the Repubs will have to turn on each other.
I just wish we could limit them to a single island somewhere as they play “Survivor.”
13OK, so I’m a little slow on the uptake. I just finally figured out what Trump’s plan is. He’s going to destroy the economy. So THAT explains why he sold all that stock a week ago [assuming he told the truth when he made that claim. THAT would be a first. But he might really be truthing this time.]
Now if he sells off his businesses before Obamacare gets killed [and Social Security and Medicare and all those nasty gubmint programs and business safeguards] he will have finally achieved his goal. He’ll be the richest person in the world!
Then he’ll blame Obama, abdicate and relocate to a private island somewhere off the coast of a European nation that has free healthcare.
And leave us with Pence.
14Oh joy.